Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jan 5, 2021, 7:12 pm
#6196
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
You sir are a saint !!!! This is hands down my favorite thread on FT. I’m still thinking of doing the MEX-MIA-LAX as it’s on the 777 for the MIA-LAX leg. Nice to have a lie flat for 6 or so hours. I’m really liking the look of the LAX trips, hopefully we start to see a better state for LA come the second quarter of the year.
Jan 6, 2021, 9:25 am
#6197
Fontaine d'honneur du Flyertalk
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Morbihan, France
Programs: Reine des Muccis de Pucci; Foreign Elitist (according to others)
Posts: 19,180
Boys - this may not belong here but I'm unsure where it should be asked. I need some help please. I have (thanks entirely to ISTFlyer ) managed to get Matrix to work and have found a fare that suits me well this November. The itinerary is SOF-LHR (Night Stop) - MIA - EYW// LAX - LHR -(Night Stop) - SOF. The fare is a little over £1000. This is in J of course. Now I can find the flights that I want on Matirx - but I cannot replicate this on BA.com as per usual. I have tried S0F-LHR-MIA and it keeps putting me on AA flights - or is they are BA the times are dreadful for the final leg. Indeed the return flight actually show Balkan Air between LHR and SOF - this is not going to happen!
Can I call BA and get them to book it direct? I can give them the exact flight details. I prefer not to use any other site than the airline's own. I could book it with AA but that would definitely be second choice as it prices into $. If this is in the wrong thread I'll gladly move this.
I seem to remember that there was someone in the Amsterdam office who was able to do these but my memory maybe playing tricks on me.
Thanks in advance
Can I call BA and get them to book it direct? I can give them the exact flight details. I prefer not to use any other site than the airline's own. I could book it with AA but that would definitely be second choice as it prices into $. If this is in the wrong thread I'll gladly move this.
I seem to remember that there was someone in the Amsterdam office who was able to do these but my memory maybe playing tricks on me.
Thanks in advance
Jan 6, 2021, 9:39 am
#6198
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,502
Boys - this may not belong here but I'm unsure where it should be asked. I need some help please. I have (thanks entirely to ISTFlyer ) managed to get Matrix to work and have found a fare that suits me well this November. The itinerary is SOF-LHR (Night Stop) - MIA - EYW// LAX - LHR -(Night Stop) - SOF. The fare is a little over £1000. This is in J of course. Now I can find the flights that I want on Matirx - but I cannot replicate this on BA.com as per usual. I have tried S0F-LHR-MIA and it keeps putting me on AA flights - or is they are BA the times are dreadful for the final leg. Indeed the return flight actually show Balkan Air between LHR and SOF - this is not going to happen!
Can I call BA and get them to book it direct? I can give them the exact flight details. I prefer not to use any other site than the airline's own. I could book it with AA but that would definitely be second choice as it prices into $. If this is in the wrong thread I'll gladly move this.
I seem to remember that there was someone in the Amsterdam office who was able to do these but my memory maybe playing tricks on me.
Thanks in advance
Can I call BA and get them to book it direct? I can give them the exact flight details. I prefer not to use any other site than the airline's own. I could book it with AA but that would definitely be second choice as it prices into $. If this is in the wrong thread I'll gladly move this.
I seem to remember that there was someone in the Amsterdam office who was able to do these but my memory maybe playing tricks on me.
Thanks in advance
Jan 6, 2021, 9:41 am
#6199
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
Jan 6, 2021, 9:48 am
#6200
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,293
Jan 6, 2021, 10:03 am
#6201
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
Jan 6, 2021, 10:14 am
#6202
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
Amex certainly will charge you a booking fee for this. EUR 45 last time I did it. I also have a Platinum card. BA will book it over the phone, waive the fee if you cannot book it online and also charge you in your currency of choice.
Jan 6, 2021, 10:21 am
#6203
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
Just be aware that the transatlantic leg should be marketed on BA code and the fare should be a BA..I****** fare in order to book on 125- stock. This is a kind reminder.
If you prefer to book a AA..I****** fare, that would be issued on 001- AA stock and AA change/cancellation policies would apply.
If you prefer to book a AA..I****** fare, that would be issued on 001- AA stock and AA change/cancellation policies would apply.
Jan 6, 2021, 10:25 am
#6204
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
Last edited by Komodromou; Jan 6, 2021 at 10:33 am
Jan 6, 2021, 10:29 am
#6205
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
Jan 6, 2021, 10:42 am
#6206
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
This is what I initially sent to AMEX from ITA and they charged me a slightly cheaper ticket
Jan 6, 2021, 1:23 pm
#6207
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,502
Just be aware that the transatlantic leg should be marketed on BA code and the fare should be a BA..I****** fare in order to book on 125- stock. This is a kind reminder.
If you prefer to book a AA..I****** fare, that would be issued on 001- AA stock and AA change/cancellation policies would apply.
If you prefer to book a AA..I****** fare, that would be issued on 001- AA stock and AA change/cancellation policies would apply.
Jan 6, 2021, 1:30 pm
#6208
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
BA can book over the phone AA marketed flights on TATL sectors and still issue it on 125-stock, just need to get a right agent who's not making up rules. it will be slightly cheaper and won't be GUF'able since TATL is marketed by AA. In such case BA will charge you the £10 booking fee, since it's non-BA fare.
However, not to be confused that when booking with AMEX Travel, they would be issuing an AA fare on AA stock.
Jan 6, 2021, 1:32 pm
#6209
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,428
Just be aware that the transatlantic leg should be marketed on BA code and the fare should be a BA..I****** fare in order to book on 125- stock. This is a kind reminder.
If you prefer to book a AA..I****** fare, that would be issued on 001- AA stock and AA change/cancellation policies would apply.
If you prefer to book a AA..I****** fare, that would be issued on 001- AA stock and AA change/cancellation policies would apply.
Jan 7, 2021, 2:30 am
#6210
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: BG
Programs: BAEC Silver, TK Elite, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 827
Regarding the SOF-USA J flights..
Can anyone tell me if this fare is/is expected to be available over Christmas 2021. I realise it's too early for the AA flights to be filed, but thinking of combining it with our family holiday next year, especially as we are based in Bulgaria anyway. Wanted to know if there are blackout dates.
Can anyone tell me if this fare is/is expected to be available over Christmas 2021. I realise it's too early for the AA flights to be filed, but thinking of combining it with our family holiday next year, especially as we are based in Bulgaria anyway. Wanted to know if there are blackout dates.