Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Jan 3, 2021, 10:18 am
#6166
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Until the wide-bodies are needed for another route, AA would use 777/787's on the JFK-LAX/SFO routes. The reason why A321T's are currently being used on the JFK-SFO route is that AA's wide-body gates at SFO Terminal 1 is not ready yet and still under construction, when they are ready, JFK-SFO would also be operated by wide-bodies.
Jan 3, 2021, 10:21 am
#6167
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Until the wide-bodies are needed for another route, AA would use 777/787's on the JFK-LAX/SFO routes. The reason why A321T's are currently being used on the JFK-SFO route is that AA's wide-body gates at SFO Terminal 1 is not ready yet and still under construction, when they are ready, JFK-SFO would also be operated by wide-bodies.
im curious: doesnt (europe-jfk-lax-asia-lax-jfk-europe) offer a very good utilization of the aircrafts and little downtime?
i really dont see that they would need the airplanes on other routes (and they cancelled 4 Europe routes - i think VCE, MAN plus two others).
but after they converted the 321T to regular shorthaul aircrafts there is now way back. at least no cheap one
Jan 3, 2021, 10:33 am
#6168
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Thanks for the replies on this, bearing in mind the situation I will probably phone them to book direct. I take it I just need to quote the fare basis and flight numbers.
You can get it BA numbered apart from LAX-SEA for £1460.
Would be nice to have the 777/787 for JFK-LAX and you would hope that it would be the most likely route with lie flat.
You can get it BA numbered apart from LAX-SEA for £1460.
Would be nice to have the 777/787 for JFK-LAX and you would hope that it would be the most likely route with lie flat.
Jan 3, 2021, 4:45 pm
#6169
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If you want to fly transcontinental on a 777 or a 787 you should transit via MIA, which has a daily 777 flight to LAX and still gets you 140 tier points.
Jan 3, 2021, 4:48 pm
#6170
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Jan 3, 2021, 4:51 pm
#6171
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Jan 3, 2021, 4:59 pm
#6172
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Here are the screenshots. By the way, if you have counter-evidence for the dates the OP would travel, please feel free to share them.
First search: EDI-LHR-MIA-LAX-SEA for the dates the OP requested
Second search: EDI-LHR-JFK-LAX-SEA for the dates the OP requested
Jan 4, 2021, 2:01 am
#6174
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Jan 4, 2021, 2:27 am
#6175
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Is this confirmed? I recall rumours at the beginning of December [and wouldn't be surprised], but can't find anything definite.
Jan 4, 2021, 3:03 am
#6176
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LAX - 321T - JFK - Concorde Room - 747 - LHR made for a perfect route home!
Jan 4, 2021, 3:30 am
#6177
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Pilot37
Last edited by Pilot37; Jan 4, 2021 at 3:37 am
Jan 4, 2021, 4:05 am
#6178
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I am just off the phone with AA on a route including A321T JFK-LAX in April.
I asked the agent to check specifically on the aircraft type.
She even asked a supervisor and confirmed it is still scheduled as an A321T and in a three-class configuration.
As you can see from the screenshot, it is also possible to book F.
I asked the agent to check specifically on the aircraft type.
She even asked a supervisor and confirmed it is still scheduled as an A321T and in a three-class configuration.
As you can see from the screenshot, it is also possible to book F.
Jan 4, 2021, 4:12 am
#6179
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I am just off the phone with AA on a route including A321T JFK-LAX in April.
I asked the agent to check specifically on the aircraft type.
She even asked a supervisor and confirmed it is still scheduled as an A321T and in a three-class configuration.
As you can see from the screenshot, it is also possible to book F.
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I asked the agent to check specifically on the aircraft type.
She even asked a supervisor and confirmed it is still scheduled as an A321T and in a three-class configuration.
As you can see from the screenshot, it is also possible to book F.
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Jan 4, 2021, 4:16 am
#6180
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In fairness, it wouldn't be surprising for the schedule to still include a retired type or for the call centre staff to rely on the schedule for "confirmation". Doesn't seem to be anything other than JonNYC's rumours regarding the demise of the Transcons at present though - and that could well fit with AA putting the feelers out on the idea, learning that it would be unpopular with big clients and scrapping it.
And of course, I stay prepared for a last-minute equipment change - if flying at all to the US in April ...