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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jun 7, 2020, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
However, flying LHR-SOF-LHR-HEL-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-HEL-LHR-SOF-LHR in J is cheaper than LHR-LAX-LHR in J.
But it's also time-consuming and physically exhausting, and very much one for people who enjoy flying for the sake of it.

Many people - and I am, for the most part, one of them - would choose to pay more and spend less time in the air.
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Old Jun 7, 2020, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by Misco60
But it's also time-consuming and physically exhausting, and very much one for people who enjoy flying for the sake of it.

Many people - and I am, for the most part, one of them - would choose to pay more and spend less time in the air.
I completely respect your opinion, some people would prefer saving time and spend less time in the air but some others won't.
However, unless I have time constraints, I am not willing to pay extra for shorter travel time and I'll prefer to spend the remaining money on other stuff ( maybe on another travel... )
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Old Jun 7, 2020, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Can I ask a question - please do not take it amiss. I am so impressed with some of these daft fares and routings believe me.

My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.

You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
A resounding no. ( With the exception of perhaps an Asia trip via ARN & DOH, but that is as much about price and product as it is about tier points. )
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Old Jun 7, 2020, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Can I ask a question - please do not take it amiss. I am so impressed with some of these daft fares and routings believe me.

My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.

You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
I officially moved to QRPC today instead of BAEC, however, if BA did extend my status for a year, I would have done the same craziness on another alliance. Maybe a crazy routing on Delta/Air France/KLM rather than American Airlines/British Airways/Finnair.
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 2:14 am
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I officially moved to QRPC today instead of BAEC, however, if BA did extend my status for a year, I would have done the same craziness on another alliance. Maybe a crazy routing on Delta/Air France/KLM rather than American Airlines/British Airways/Finnair.
Dear IST, please bring me out from the confusion into that you have conjured QROC stands for what? Has it something to do with Qatar ? My wildest guess was Queensland Rail Public Conveniences, and I’m sure that is not correct
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 2:21 am
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
I officially moved to QRPC today instead of BAEC, however, if BA did extend my status for a year, I would have done the same craziness on another alliance. Maybe a crazy routing on Delta/Air France/KLM rather than American Airlines/British Airways/Finnair.
Even though QR are doing that lovely status match to our TK status, it's worth remembering that their miles are close to worthless when it comes to award flights.

I do think we'll start to see more status match opportunities post-covid, so my days of TP running across Europe and the US appear to be behind me...
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by WATP
lol. I really admire you boys who year on year traipse round the world chasing tier points to get a concorde room card or whatever. I must confess i did do this a little myself around a decade ago but the years caught up with me and i basically cant be bothered any more. To me, looking back, it has been the waste of a great deal of money. Others would be baffled that i would take complex routing such as the above and for what, to dine in the very tired concorde room at T5 and sink a few single malts.

Nowadays I like to waste my money on fast cars rather than fast aeroplanes. Given where we are now I would thoroughly recommend the switch.
What about the girls?
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 3:18 am
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Well said, Jessica.
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 3:32 am
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What about the girls?
what about them? I've seen no posts detailing complex route planning from any girls whilst looking through the thread.

In fact, when i did some tier point runs many moons ago i didn't come across one single female who did likewise. I would suggest they had/have more sense! ha ha
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Can I ask a question - please do not take it amiss. I am so impressed with some of these daft fares and routings believe me.

My question is - suppose BA moved the goal posts and for this year said that the amount of Tier Points required were significantly reduced (30%?) or that you did not need to requalify as they were adding a year to everyone's status - would you bother doing all this? It struck me that if the goal is to achieve Gold Status (or GGL for all I know) did not apply in the same measure, or indeed at all - would you put yourselves through all these connections and extra flying? I'm just curious - saying that you just love flying is fine, whatever works for you.

You've put me on to some wonderful deals in the past for which I will always be grateful.
PUCCI GALORE , I consider myself very lucky in that I have just started a new job. Having spend the past 4 years doing a PhD, I was never able to and always wanted to be in the position to be able to do the kind of "crazy" EU-USA trips discussed in this thread; I am now in a position to do so however because of some things going on in my personal life I do not want to commit to anything so far in advance.

I am lucky enough that during my PhD I was able to obtain Gold through my conference travel as well as personal travel visiting family in USA and Singapore/Malaysia - both of which were slightly TP optimised but also price optimised. Therefore I want to do one of these trips purely for the fun of it - I love planes and enjoy the thrill of visiting new airports etc, I don't think that I will need the TPs. If I can do it around a scheduled trip to the USA to visit family, all the better!
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 4:29 am
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Originally Posted by WATP
what about them? I've seen no posts detailing complex route planning from any girls whilst looking through the thread.

In fact, when i did some tier point runs many moons ago i didn't come across one single female who did likewise. I would suggest they had/have more sense! ha ha
How do you know if posters are female?

I have just had my tier point run to Portland cancelled by AA after multiple changes (more than 20 different changes to date). It was originally one of the babybus routes posted on this thread and booked in January.

Now looking for a replacement. AA have not given an option to rebook- can I insist that they do? The revised outward flights are still flying- the return looks more tricky.

One of your flights was canceled and we're unable to rebook your trip. Don't worry, the value of your ticket is safe.

If you'd like to travel within the next 72 hours, please call 800-541-3692 for help. If you don't plan to travel within that time, there's no need to call right now.

You can either:

1. Wait until you're ready to rebook your new trip and call to use the value of your unused ticket and seat purchase.

2. Request a refund for your ticket.
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 5:10 am
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Originally Posted by Barnaby100
How do you know if posters are female?
Doubtless Dear I will be proved wrong, but on this thread in particular I would say that no woman in her right mind would take 10 flights if one or two would do. I think that I am being extremely reckless doing B2Bs to Inverness or Stockholm never mind routing to New York via Helsinki!
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 6:02 am
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At the Phoenix and Gibraltar do’s as samples, we had a lovely diverse group of people, and long may that diversity continue
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Old Jun 8, 2020, 7:22 am
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I consider myself very lucky in that I have just started a new job. Having spend the past 4 years doing a PhD...
Congratulations on the new job Dr. wilsnunn!!
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