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callum9999

Surely everywhere in the world has this? It's not a loophole, you are paying less for a less convenient routing in comparison to the locsl competition. That principle applies almost anywhere.

IluvSQ

Yes, usually by carriers competing in a " not natural" market.
As noted by a few posters above, AC offers very reasonable fares at times from US cities to Asia that can be 60-70% of the fare offered from YYZ or YVR
UA/DL sometimes offer fares from YYZ to Asia that are much cheaper than those from ORD or SFO.
Some of the cheapest fares from Canada to Asia are with AY, and occasionally with KL.
MU and CZ often offer low fares from North America to South East Asia ( CGK, SIN, BKK) for much less than the fares to their hubs.

mec72

Yes, there is. Pricing from Canada or Mexico will obviously be different than from the U.S., so I'm sure that if you're willing to start from YYZ or MEX instead of JFK directly to LHR, there may be some good deals to be had - same as for different markets in Europe. As others have said upthread, it's not a loophole, just different pricing for different markets.

Geordie405

I also replied to the thread started by @ginger50 and my reply is here where I said that booking with a UK POS via AA's UK site was sometimes cheaper than via www.aa.com but also that I was starting to do more nested flights where I'd book one US - UK return but everything between those dates would be UK - US - UK to benefit from cheaper fares and lower taxes.

I may start looking at flying with AC too if their flights really are that much cheaper, and so looking at cutting back on J travel and doing more in WT+ / PE where AA's P class fares can offer excellent value for money.

hyperspace

Thank you all for the replies! Lots of good tips and yes, Loophole was probably not the best way to describe it. Anyways, I wanna take a moment and celebrate the very first time a thread I started reached page 2 on the forum. hahah

again, thank you all!

So far I've tried the Canada routing and it definitely has some cheaper fares from there, though, not sure it can justify a $300-ish positioning flight?
LAX-LHR-LIN runs around $3700 in april. Vancouver-LHR-LIN is about $2900, so significantly lower but once i have to account for $300 positioning flight, not so much. Plus LAX to Canada is about 3 hours, not really a short hop.

I'll try via Mexico!

When I tried from smaller cities within US, the price difference wasn't that much lower unfortunately.

Xonus

Difference is often small as you noted - but from a TP point of view, it could be an extra 80 to go to LAS and start there.

callum9999

So you're just looking at BA from North America? This has no relation at all to the ex-EU deals then, you're just looking for an airport with cheaper fares than LAX - in which case, just check everywhere!

(To clarify, ex-EU adds an additional flight to the beginning of the wanted LON-XXX fare to make it cheaper, this is just shopping around)

Xonus

There's a bit to be saved from different airports in the US, but there is a LOT more to be saved by looking at different final destinations in Europe. For example TIA seems a cheap destination from LAX. Haven't checked the fare for stopover rules etc, but you could go past TIA either out or back and take a stopover in LHR to go where you needed. Google flights is actually pretty good for exploring different destinations.

hyperspace

oh that's a very interesting option I never thought about. Always thought of looking at creative way to start the journey to make it cheaper, not looking for alternatively destinations in Europe. Very clever. Will check that as well.

not sure what you meant with this comment, but the basic question I was asking is if there's a similar pattern of cheaper fares EX-US achieved, like you said, by adding a flight at the beginning of the wanted LAX-XXX or other port in US in a similar way EX-EU are described on this forum

Frequentflyer99

The ex EU US equivalents appear to be down in the Caribbean, although they really only seem to work when booked as an AA codeshare. For example I am actually down in the Caribbean and may need to book something later this week back to London. I can get an A class (First) O/W fare on a BA flight booked as an AA codeshare for £3,000 inc the Caribbean - MIA leg in J. That's pretty good compared to a single BA ticket MIA-LHR in any premium cabin.

Ex SJU fares used to be steal, but are much less usable now that AA no longer has a hub there.