Sunday Times Piece - "Sorry, BA, but new blazers aren’t enough"
Sep 30, 2018, 11:39 am
#31
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Arriving after a 10 hour trip in a 787 will have you in significantly better health than arriving after a 10 hour trip in a 747. It's as simple as that. The 747's, while romantic and old. Just aren't as good as modern planes.
Sep 30, 2018, 11:47 am
#32
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Nothing to do with what cabin your are in. To repeat what I said, the 747s are old, loud, inefficient, have dry air, poor pressurisation, vibrations, the list goes on. All of that i completely irrespective of what class you are flying.
Arriving after a 10 hour trip in a 787 will have you in significantly better health than arriving after a 10 hour trip in a 747. It's as simple as that. The 747's, while romantic and old. Just aren't as good as modern planes.
Arriving after a 10 hour trip in a 787 will have you in significantly better health than arriving after a 10 hour trip in a 747. It's as simple as that. The 747's, while romantic and old. Just aren't as good as modern planes.
Sep 30, 2018, 12:03 pm
#33
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How many times have you flown F on a 747?
Sep 30, 2018, 12:07 pm
#34
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Just another persons opinion, some will agree with his views while others won't.....not any different from what you see posted on here every day so hardly news to us.
He's lucky though, at least he's getting paid to give his opinion.
He's lucky though, at least he's getting paid to give his opinion.
Sep 30, 2018, 12:37 pm
#35
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I think it is rather unfair to criticise someone for having a different opinion stating that not all people share the same opinion; indeed that was obvious and the reason why the individual replied to the OP. Not all people want to see the 747 go as quickly as possible just as not all people want to see them stay. YVMV, but friendly replies appreciated.
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Sep 30, 2018, 2:13 pm
#40
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I would agree with a few points on this article
IT System - Yes it needs to be upgraded, How come Ryanair’s, QR, EasyJet’s are not getting compromised. These things happen and can be forgiven just as long as lessons are learned.
Free Food and Drink - I hate the BOB that BA have, it’s stupid. For the price of a soft drink is it worth loosing passengers which you will if you don’t have Status with BA. Plus I can take an educated guess more crisps, beer cans and soft drinks are being taken from the Lounges so BA in actual fact are loosing money.
Staff - All staff have been very friendly to me and very professional so disagree with this point. Maybe he was just unlucky.
Power - Yes WiFi, Power and USB would be great for Short Haul but not required. For long haul in Y I would be disappointed if there is no charging facilities.
Club World - The seats are OK but just OK. Nothing special, comfortable and you can sleep in them. Plus they have aisle access. Keep the direct Aisle access and I’m happy.
Clothing - Staff are well turned out in my opinion and I like the uniforms no need to change them in my opinion.
Sep 30, 2018, 2:32 pm
#41
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Obviously the 744 is still popular amongst those that can snag something upstairs or are in 1A/K. In these circumstances the 744 is still a good aircraft although I entirely agree that the air quality on the 787 is an improvement. Worst of the lot - 772.
Sep 30, 2018, 3:01 pm
#42
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Free Food and Drink - I hate the BOB that BA have, it’s stupid. For the price of a soft drink is it worth loosing passengers which you will if you don’t have Status with BA. Plus I can take an educated guess more crisps, beer cans and soft drinks are being taken from the Lounges so BA in actual fact are loosing money.
Only my educated guess too, but I’d find it pretty likely that BA is saving a lot more than it might lose in lounge pilfering, and maybe that cost is borne by outsourced lounge caterers. How long BA will persist with spinning the illusion that there is anything premium about its brand in ET is another matter, I continue to believe that a brand can’t sustain being pulled in opposite directions for too long.
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Sep 30, 2018, 3:07 pm
#43
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The 787 though as you say seems to be a step change for the better.
Sep 30, 2018, 3:11 pm
#44
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Modern BA short haul services could have 10 toilets down the back, and all of us in the front half of ET would use the CE loos.
It is simply the BoB carts.
And when you reach my age, when you have to go, you have to go.
CC do understand that.
It is simply the BoB carts.
And when you reach my age, when you have to go, you have to go.
CC do understand that.
Sep 30, 2018, 3:15 pm
#45
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Absolutely agree. Having done multiple long haul flights in all types the 777 is the one I avoid most due to air quality and lack of humidity. The 747 may be older but I get off feeling far fresher than I ever do on a 777. A newer aircraft is not always better, and the recent refurbishment of the super J 747s has helped to address some of the issues like poor IFE.
The 787 though as you say seems to be a step change for the better.
The 787 though as you say seems to be a step change for the better.
However the 747 in UD, particularly in BA's Super J format, remains an excellent product in my opinion and remains my first choice.