Sep 29, 2018, 10:12 am
BA to close HKG base [confirmed for Cabin Crew]
Sep 28, 2018, 1:52 pm
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My wife and I have an upcoming trip to HKG with BA. We will both have to check for availability of Cantonese speaking crew and if it is lacking compared to previous trips we will make our displeasure known. Since we are both gold and travelling in F it might have a little weight. Although most of the TPs for our gold cards, and the avios paying for the trip came from flying CX J. I rather suspect we will be leaning towards CX even more in future.
Sep 28, 2018, 2:10 pm
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I was thinking of telling the CSD and then following up with abcomplaint, assuming it will be an issue. Is this not the best way?
I appreciate it is unlikely to make a difference to the HK base, but I think it is important to let BA know the value of multilingual, route appropriate crew.
I appreciate it is unlikely to make a difference to the HK base, but I think it is important to let BA know the value of multilingual, route appropriate crew.
Sep 28, 2018, 2:28 pm
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Sep 28, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Sep 28, 2018, 2:51 pm
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Sep 28, 2018, 3:31 pm
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I am no legal pro but it appears BA may be in breach of the IAG GROUP SLAVERY AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING STATEMENT also wouldn't they have consulted local union representatives before proceeding?
https://www.britishairways.com/cms/g...ng_Current.pdf
https://www.britishairways.com/cms/g...ng_Current.pdf
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their potential, free of harassment and discrimination. IAG is committed to ensuring the health and safety of its
employees and has robust policies in place to support this.
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Sep 28, 2018, 3:46 pm
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This is sad and appalling and I hope all the donations put together can tide the sacked crew over a few more days.
Best wishes to all involved.
Best wishes to all involved.
Sep 28, 2018, 4:14 pm
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I am no legal pro but it appears BA may be in breach of the IAG GROUP SLAVERY AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING STATEMENT also wouldn't they have consulted local union representatives before proceeding?
https://www.britishairways.com/cms/g...ng_Current.pdf
https://www.britishairways.com/cms/g...ng_Current.pdf
They are also not covered by the European Trade Union agreements, plus we know whatever words IAG puts out what the real attitude to Industrial Relations is.
The issue here is not that BA has broken the law - it clearly hasn’t - but the callous, uncaring, brutal manner of the implementation.
Sep 28, 2018, 4:29 pm
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I would not be confident to say BA "clearly hasn't" broken laws, especially when I don't know those of Hong Kong.
Sep 28, 2018, 4:30 pm
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That is, to say the least, something of a curveball theory. Clearly, however badly the HK crew have been treated, they are not being trafficked or forced into modern day slavery.
They are also not covered by the European Trade Union agreements, plus we know whatever words IAG puts out what the real attitude to Industrial Relations is.
The issue here is not that BA has broken the law - it clearly hasn’t - but the callous, uncaring, brutal manner of the implementation.
They are also not covered by the European Trade Union agreements, plus we know whatever words IAG puts out what the real attitude to Industrial Relations is.
The issue here is not that BA has broken the law - it clearly hasn’t - but the callous, uncaring, brutal manner of the implementation.
IAG expects all employees to be treated with dignity and respect.
Our Operating Companies consult with employee representative bodies, including trade unions and works councils
Our Operating Companies consult with employee representative bodies, including trade unions and works councils
Also why have the HK crew not taken advantage of the "whistleblowing channels"?
Sep 28, 2018, 5:59 pm
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2) carol ng is also the head of CTU (the non-communist backing trade union in HK) so is massively targeted by commie media.