Winter Storm Grayson (US East Coast) 4th/5th - Possible Disruption
#76
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If the passenger is willingly stuck, then of course it is a non-issue
#77
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Why on earth would someone wait 5 days?
There are many flights with seats available from NYC-Europe over the past few days. You can usually jump on a service with a seat available with 24 hours notice for ~£580 with EI EWR-LGW.
Unless, of course, your colleague wanted to enjoy New York on DY's account
There are many flights with seats available from NYC-Europe over the past few days. You can usually jump on a service with a seat available with 24 hours notice for ~£580 with EI EWR-LGW.
Unless, of course, your colleague wanted to enjoy New York on DY's account
#78
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At one point JFK really was overwhelmed (airlines collectively) and were quoting multiple days to get people back. In reality I think all BA passenger who wanted to travel had no more than 48 hours of delay, ditto the other legacy airlines, as other routes such as YYZ and IAD were considered. I suspect the 4 and 5 days quoted were on the basis of "when is your next flight out of here?" which would have changed the next time someone looked. The USA airlines don't have quite the same pressure since they are not responsible for the hotel bills, but they have the network and experience to shift people at times like this. I don't know the specifics for the LCCs but usually they struggle in this area simply from lack of equipment, network, experience and locally based middle management. They would normally be covered by EC261. However the CAA's guidance on this - not fully tested - is that if your travel can't be rebooked within 24 hours then you can sort yourself out and bill the LCC for reasonable costs. DY aren't too bad in the EC261 area (compared to say Wow!) other than they don't make it easy to make the claim in the first place.
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#79
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FYI my colleague is stuck with what appear to be around 50/60 others from the Norwegian flight. I am sure most other carriers would have got them all home by now.
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This is assuming the ticket was bought USA to UK, including an indirect routing, but on a single reservation.
My previous post here may help
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29176757-post149.html
CAA leaflet (PDF) - see the Continuing your journey section.
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/...r%20flight.PDF
#81
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As a data point, BA offered us any USA gateway (I guess within reason, so I am not sure on jfk-lax-lhr for instance) and AA flight from nyc to that gateway if required. As well as options on AA or AY. the train to PHL or IAD could also come into play. We stuck with JFK due to being offered Friday, and that there were no reasonable flights from JFK anyway as AAs ops were slammed.
Also so I felt BA were very good with working with a sugggested flight, and then giving me to the next day to think on it before it became my free change.
At at the airport on the Friday were lots of people from the previous night, like Groundhog Day. The only place I would fault is whether the queues to rebook were necessary, I.e. Could they have put more staff on, and that telling people to go book their own hotel, take a taxi etc, and call 1800-airways is fine for most people here who are experienced, and of the means, but a large number do not have that experience or means, and were confused and hunkered down for the night at the airport. This is where I see eu261 falling down, in providing a piece of paper and some vague stuff about you can send it in via the website, is not enough for many people.
The other area I was confused on, was that BA (by phone) would not split the booking to make 2x2 versus 1x4 which would have given more options.
In in the end I believe it was a pretty off peak time to fly which helped getting people back.
KF
Also so I felt BA were very good with working with a sugggested flight, and then giving me to the next day to think on it before it became my free change.
At at the airport on the Friday were lots of people from the previous night, like Groundhog Day. The only place I would fault is whether the queues to rebook were necessary, I.e. Could they have put more staff on, and that telling people to go book their own hotel, take a taxi etc, and call 1800-airways is fine for most people here who are experienced, and of the means, but a large number do not have that experience or means, and were confused and hunkered down for the night at the airport. This is where I see eu261 falling down, in providing a piece of paper and some vague stuff about you can send it in via the website, is not enough for many people.
The other area I was confused on, was that BA (by phone) would not split the booking to make 2x2 versus 1x4 which would have given more options.
In in the end I believe it was a pretty off peak time to fly which helped getting people back.
KF