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Nov 3, 2018, 9:16 am

#1171

beachmouse

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Delta's not typically a 'surprise and delight' customer service experience and sometimes doesn't have the most proactive cabin crews. Their strength is being the more reliable and predictable option among the big US carriers from in terms of on time planes, on time bags, and such. If something does go wrong, they do a good job of empowering customer-facing employees to fix your problem and get you back on track as soon as possible. And the majority of their employees will actually use that power given for the good of the customer.

Nov 3, 2018, 9:36 am

#1172

NA-Flyer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydebear

There’s some Aer Lingus flights for around €1300 to NYC from Dublin (29 Dec to 1 Jan) but you don’t get BAEC tier points sadly.

Do I still get avios for flying Aer Lingus business class P fare bucket?

Nov 7, 2018, 3:32 am

#1173

KARFA

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AMS-CPT/JNB is back in J for ~£1205

Quote:

PERMITTED
20 NOV 18 THROUGH 11 DEC 18 OR
06 JAN 19 THROUGH 30 JAN 19 OR
18 FEB 19 THROUGH 03 APR 19.

Quote:

THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN EUROPE AND AFRICA ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING - ANY BA FLIGHT.

Quote:

TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

Quote:

UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

However, I think only the following routings are allowed:

For CPT - AMS-LON-CPT or AMS-LON-JNB-BA/SA-CPT
For JNB - AMS-LON-JNB

Quote:

TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 07 DEC 18.

Code:

CANCELLATIONS
    ANY TIME
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
         NOTE -
          FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
          TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
          REFUNDABLE FARES
          1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
          2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
          COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
          CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
          COMPONENTS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
          THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
          IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
          ----------------------------------------------
          REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
          ----------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          ----------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
          ----------------------------------------------
          -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
          REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
          FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
          AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
          CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
          REFUND.
          FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
          ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
          THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          ORIGINAL.
          PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
          USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
         NOTE -
          WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
          ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
          REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
          AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
          ----------------------------------------------
          CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
          ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
          INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
          CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
          MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
          --------------------------------------------------
          REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
          RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
          TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
          OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
          REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
          HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
           --- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
          REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
          A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
          FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
          B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
          TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
          AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
          CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
          FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
          RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
          EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
          WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
          D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
          BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
          THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET VALUE
          MUST BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
          MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
          BEING APPLIED.
          2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
          TICKET VALUE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
          PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF
          THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
          DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
          CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
          --------------------------------------------------
          ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
          REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
          --------------------------------------------------
          NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
          CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
          PERMITTED.
          --------------------------------------------------
          TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.

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Nov 7, 2018, 3:45 am

#1174

Globaliser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

AMS-CPT/JNB is back in J for ~£1205

Quote:

PERMITTED
20 NOV 18 THROUGH 11 DEC 18 OR
06 JAN 19 THROUGH 30 JAN 19 OR
18 FEB 19 THROUGH 03 APR 19.

Thanks, KARFA.

It's worth noting a handful of things that look like they're the same from before:-

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Nov 7, 2018, 7:01 am

#1175

sc82491

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 55

I'm trying to get to SIN from LON in December, leaving the 18th but need to build in a week's stopover in DXB from the 18th-24th. Back to London around the 6th/7th of January. I can't find a way on the BA website to have the middle leg go straight to SIN from DXB (possibly through a partner One World flight). It keeps trying to force me back to London to then take a direct flight to SIN. Is this something they'd be able to do on the phone?

Other thoughts I've had were to use the QF EK codeshares from London to DXB and then do another QF flight to SIN before getting QF straight to London on the return. (This is also seemingly unable to be booked online). Or to just do two tickets, LON-DXB round trip and DXB-SIN round trip.

Any tips on the best way to do these types of routes? Happy to do an ex-EU or fly to AUH or KUL if it would help.

Nov 7, 2018, 7:43 am

#1176

sammyg901

Join Date: Sep 2012

Posts: 2,575

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc82491

Other thoughts I've had were to use the QF EK codeshares from London to DXB and then do another QF flight to SIN before getting QF straight to London on the return. (This is also seemingly unable to be booked online). Or to just do two tickets, LON-DXB round trip and DXB-SIN round trip.

BA can't help here as they haven't got any logical way to get you from Dubai to Singapore

You can indeed do QF (EK metal for the first two legs) - skyscanner / expedia pricing up around £4k though. I saw some sub-£3k Ethiad options but obviously with the transit on the return

Nov 7, 2018, 7:49 am

#1177

Globaliser

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sc82491

I can't find a way on the BA website to have the middle leg go straight to SIN from DXB (possibly through a partner One World flight). It keeps trying to force me back to London to then take a direct flight to SIN. Is this something they'd be able to do on the phone?

If there's a flight and there's availability, and if there's a valid fare that BA can ticket, then BA should be able to do it on the phone.

However, a quick look on ITA suggests that there are no valid BA fares for this sort of routing.

Nov 7, 2018, 7:57 am

#1178

Ned1968

Join Date: Aug 2014

Programs: BA Executive Club and OnBusiness

Posts: 721

Available from as little as £1,109 according to Google Flights for some December dates (e.g. Dec 10 to Dec 17 - 7 nights)

Can also be done from Athens instead of Amsterdam for under £1,300 for those who fancy an adventure (and an extra 80TPs)

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Nov 7, 2018, 2:24 pm

#1179

peter h

Join Date: Mar 2018

Location: London

Posts: 869

Quote:

Originally Posted by NA-Flyer

Do I still get avios for flying Aer Lingus business class P fare bucket?

A quick look at the BA calculator suggests that you only get Avios (and no TPs) for D, J & C

Nov 8, 2018, 12:04 am

#1180

brentford77

Join Date: May 2006

Location: UK London / Salisbury

Programs: BA GGL, CCR, LTG

Posts: 543

Am off to HKG in March for 5 days and happy to do an ex EU. Just found 3/3 BUD-HKG returning on the 8/3 (no Saturday night) for a remarkable £1,244 on AY

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Nov 8, 2018, 2:18 am

#1181

bhbloke

Join Date: May 2016

Location: London

Programs: BA Gold, Accor Gold

Posts: 1,431

During the 15 minute wait at AMS last night, whilst we waited for someone to operate the airbridge I was chatting to the CSM.

She knew all about the AMS based fares and asked if I was off to South Africa or BKK.

Told her it also worked well for Central and South America as I was off to MDE.

Nov 17, 2018, 2:36 am

#1182

eugegall

Join Date: Mar 2018

Location: London(ish)

Programs: BA Gold

Posts: 569

Good morning!

I'm looking to treat the Mrs to a trip to the Caribbean in March/April next year.

I completely understand flying direct at that time will be really expensive so do any of you guys know of any cheaper routing to the USA where I can connect to the Caribbean.

I think there is some cheap deals via ARN to MIA for about £1000 but I can't price it up ITA Matrix.

New York or any other close ones would be awesome.

Anyone know of anything?

Nov 17, 2018, 4:07 pm

#1183

Subman

Join Date: Apr 2016

Posts: 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugegall

Coincidentally, I visited to ask a similar question, although I'm looking to go to bgi for the cricket in January.

I'll let you know if I find anything, would be grateful if you could do the same!

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Nov 17, 2018, 5:20 pm

#1184

Confus

Join Date: Nov 2017

Posts: 3,061

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugegall

I think there is some cheap deals via ARN to MIA for about £1000 but I can't price it up ITA Matrix.

It will price up perfectly well if you use dates for which the fare is valid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AA fare rules

PERMITTED 27JUN THROUGH 04SEP OR 18NOV THROUGH 22NOV OR
22DEC THROUGH 01JAN OR 15APR THROUGH 26APR FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

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Nov 17, 2018, 10:37 pm

#1185

our_kid

Join Date: Aug 2006

Programs: BAEC Gold/GGL, IHG Diamond AMB

Posts: 1,074

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugegall

Am not sure if it’s still going but I once did a fabulous open jaw from Valencia - St Lucia - Paris via PHL / MIA