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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details

See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
From North, Central and South America

23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com



From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 1:51 am
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[QUOTE=madfish;29323166]


Welcome. What do you see as the advantages of having bronze? Is there any value of this for you? Most people tend to disregard bronze and see silver as a better level to achieve as this comes with lounge access and free seat selection at time of booking.

nevertheless, 300TPs are fairly easily attainable. From EDI you should be able to fit in an EDI/LGW/MLA and return over a couple of days 240 TPs in CE. Alternatively head down to LHR on day one and do a range of short haul flights on B2Bs from there or spend each day in a different city before returning to EDI at the end of it all.
Day 1 and 5 to and from EDI. 80TPs
Day 2, 3 and 4 from LHR to anywhere and return 80TPs each day.

However, with the above you would still be looking at around £800 minimum. I’d be more tempted to look to go on an ex-EU for not much more and hit silver.

What's does CE mean ?
hiw many points needed from blue to silver ?
do you gets reduced points if you part pay with avios ?
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 1:53 am
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Originally Posted by madfish


Welcome. What do you see as the advantages of having bronze? Is there any value of this for you? Most people tend to disregard bronze and see silver as a better level to achieve as this comes with lounge access and free seat selection at time of booking.

nevertheless, 300TPs are fairly easily attainable. From EDI you should be able to fit in an EDI/LGW/MLA and return over a couple of days 240 TPs in CE. Alternatively head down to LHR on day one and do a range of short haul flights on B2Bs from there or spend each day in a different city before returning to EDI at the end of it all.
Day 1 and 5 to and from EDI. 80TPs
Day 2, 3 and 4 from LHR to anywhere and return 80TPs each day.

However, with the above you would still be looking at around £800 minimum. I’d be more tempted to look to go on an ex-EU for not much more and hit silver.

What's does CE mean ?
hiw many points needed from blue to silver ?
do you gets reduced points if you part pay with avios ?
CE is Club Europe (business class).

600 TP from Blue to Silver.

No, you still earn full TP and Avios.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by BA038_Passenger
Hi all,

whats the most TPefficient route available for LAX-PTY at the moment? Looking at a week in LAX in May

cheers...
Originally Posted by madfish


Ross posted an example up thread a little. Around 840TPs for £750 over 4 days. Something like LAS/LAX/PHX/PHL/RDU/CLT/MCO/MIA/PTY

Good luck
The fare is still available, but I have not worked out a routing with the latest schedule yet. You will be able to get 16 segments, 840 TPs for approximately £780. You can of course reduce the number of segments and therefore time needed to do this run. You will need to plug away at ITA Matrix in order to find what you need. Below is an example of an itinerary (but I think this one prices higher for May, probably due to fare bucket availability so you'll need to work one out):

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Old Jan 22, 2018, 3:02 am
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Hmmm. You shouldn't fly with them. They will be flying F on the transcon and you will end up in J
I also managed to snag F on those. But judging by the wide availability of 62AK and 64K on the TATLs, I'm guessing we are on different flight
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
The fare is still available, but I have not worked out a routing with the latest schedule yet. You will be able to get 16 segments, 840 TPs for approximately £780. You can of course reduce the number of segments and therefore time needed to do this run. You will need to plug away at ITA Matrix in order to find what you need. Below is an example of an itinerary (but I think this one prices higher for May, probably due to fare bucket availability so you'll need to work one out):


I hope something like this is available in December. Looks challenging, though I'll only need 680TP for Gold.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 3:07 am
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Originally Posted by Frequent flyer 101
I also managed to snag F on those. But judging by the wide availability of 62AK and 64K on the TATLs, I'm guessing we are on different flight
I am F all the way as I used my GUF too.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
Yes, that is correct
Can turn it around in one weekend. Or run 80TP fewer for LAX only [actually, that's about £300 more]. Very tempting.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by flyuk
I hope something like this is available in December. Looks challenging, though I'll only need 680TP for Gold.
I'm doing this exact run but as I'm being crazy I added the OTP-PHX run via HEL to it. so should get gold in one whole trip.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by oxtailsoup
4. The J seat on the JFK-LAX is absolutely fine... some say better than the single F seat. Lots on google about this. I’ve flown both and didn’t think F was that good (it’s not bad either... it’s just not a great F product).
I concur - I did JFK-LAX-JFK last year, out in F and back in J. F was basically the same as the transatlantic J seat on their 773, J was fine although it's a 2-2 config so you do have a neighbour. Not that I minded, as I got royally plastered on the journey with the hilarious lady next to me in 7C....
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by n4ynx
I'm doing this exact run but as I'm being crazy I added the OTP-PHX run via HEL to it. so should get gold in one whole trip.
That's the kind of crazy I live by. I'd probably do something similar if I wasn't flying LHR-HEL-DOH-HND-CTS return on BA/QR/JL for 720TP on a route I actually have a practical use for...
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 10:10 am
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Hi Guys ! I'm working on a descent TP run and throw in another idea:




on BAEC this will bring you: 40 (D) + 40 (I) + 40 (I) + 20 (I) + 20 (I) + 40 (I) = 200 TPs for EUR 430,-- / GBP 379,--
on QAPC you'll have: 10 + 10 + 12 + 12 + 12 + 12 = 68 Qpoints

For some reason the ITA Matrix won't let me reproduce this trip for the price above:


The only issure is that i'd have to start the trip ex VIE, which pushes the price to ~ EUR 700, which destroys the price/TP ratio completely. Maybe someone experienced has an improvement oder better idea.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 11:11 am
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OTP-HNL in early June routing OTP-LHR-SFO-LAX-HNL-LAX-LHR-OTP in I A I I I A I for GBP2009 and 900TPs. Fare on ITA Matrix, booked via aa.com, includes four BA-metal sectors.

Ex-ATH was same price. Prices were similar from ARN, OSL and WAW but slightly less TPs. Cheaper with slightly less TPs at GBP1775 from GOT. GBP2200 from PRG.

I was constrained by dates and could not find a reasonably priced itinerary utilising JFK-LAX/SFO transcon sectors. However, as shown in posts above these may be available at other times for even more TPs per GBP.

A shout-out to atcer28 for the initial pointer.
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
The fare is still available, but I have not worked out a routing with the latest schedule yet. You will be able to get 16 segments, 840 TPs for approximately £780. You can of course reduce the number of segments and therefore time needed to do this run. You will need to plug away at ITA Matrix in order to find what you need. Below is an example of an itinerary (but I think this one prices higher for May, probably due to fare bucket availability so you'll need to work one out):

Thanks for reposting that. I have been doing some catch up reading of this thread, and was about to do a search for this specific routing. Quick question: what are the fare dates/limits again?
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Thanks for reposting that. I have been doing some catch up reading of this thread, and was about to do a search for this specific routing. Quick question: what are the fare dates/limits again?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29317183-post568.html
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Old Jan 22, 2018, 12:04 pm
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Thanks, but I'm asking about the LAX-PTY TP run. I'm hoping to tack something on to an already existing LAX trip next month, or in April.
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