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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
From North, Central and South America
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 master thread
#2251
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
I have been trying to book a deal that I've found with ITA matrix (JER-LGW-LHR-PHL-CLT-PDX-LAX-JFK-LHR), priced up over there at £1,084. Tried to use BookWithMatrix, but that directs through to aa.com - I get all the way through seat selection and to payment then it falls flat on it's arse because I've got a UK credit card, it directs me to the UK AA site, but I'm unable to recreate the itinerary as it's got 9 sectors (the AA multi-city page only handles 6).
Any ideas? I believe this JER-PDX fare is only around until the end of today
Any ideas? I believe this JER-PDX fare is only around until the end of today
#2252
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
Genius (look, I got goosebumps)... thanks, I hadn't thought about that as I was being too literal and trying to fill the form out correctly. It's booked, fingers crossed they will ticket it.
#2253
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
#2254
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: Mucci, BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Stena Gold
Posts: 1,094
Matrix has enhanced away ability to search for departures from multiple airports across countries. Cannot search departing FRA, BSL to LHR. However it still works LHR to BSL, FRA.
Follow here ....This is Bad News for TP Runners and Premium Fare deals. Also for regular commuters like me who have option of multiple airports in different countries for my UK / EU commute. How will we find those ex-EU deals?
Follow here ....This is Bad News for TP Runners and Premium Fare deals. Also for regular commuters like me who have option of multiple airports in different countries for my UK / EU commute. How will we find those ex-EU deals?
#2255
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
It's a good price! And, surprisingly it has just ticketed (that was quick!). I selected "Europe" for state, and put in the numbers from my postcode padded out with zeros (e.g. my postcode starts SW12, so I went with 12000).
#2256
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: LBA
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 55
Couple of questions please;
1) NCL - LHR - PHL - PDX return - is that 40 + 140 + 140 TP each way [all AA ticketed, I class]
2) The NCL - LHR - PHL return legs are BA Operated, so would they count as my 4 qualifying flights for Silver.
I've checked the guidance on here, and it's looking good.... just need a second opinion before I commit.
Thanks very much.
1) NCL - LHR - PHL - PDX return - is that 40 + 140 + 140 TP each way [all AA ticketed, I class]
2) The NCL - LHR - PHL return legs are BA Operated, so would they count as my 4 qualifying flights for Silver.
I've checked the guidance on here, and it's looking good.... just need a second opinion before I commit.
Thanks very much.
#2257
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,977
Couple of questions please;
1) NCL - LHR - PHL - PDX return - is that 40 + 140 + 140 TP each way [all AA ticketed, I class]
2) The NCL - LHR - PHL return legs are BA Operated, so would they count as my 4 qualifying flights for Silver.
I've checked the guidance on here, and it's looking good.... just need a second opinion before I commit.
Thanks very much.
1) NCL - LHR - PHL - PDX return - is that 40 + 140 + 140 TP each way [all AA ticketed, I class]
2) The NCL - LHR - PHL return legs are BA Operated, so would they count as my 4 qualifying flights for Silver.
I've checked the guidance on here, and it's looking good.... just need a second opinion before I commit.
Thanks very much.
2) yes you'll have your four flights from this trip
#2259
I have just booked for a friend JER-LGW//LHR-PHL-LAX-PDX//PDX-LAX-MIA-LHR//LGW-JER with both transcons on widebodies, A333 and B772 respectively for £1213 (because of MPM exceeded slightly). 720 TPs
#2260
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,076
Very nice to see the B772 back on MIA-LAX-MIA rotation again. Might have missed any possible previous visits by the A333 on the PHL-LAX route, but definitively an improvement from the A321 and B737 mixture on both these routes with around 6h flight time.
#2261
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Glasgow / London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 3,457
Either call or fill in the online form, pasting in the information from Matrix, and somebody will get back to you. They're generally pretty quick. I believe the fee depends on the number of sectors, but is considerably cheaper than the £100 or so that I think you mentioned Amex quoted.
#2262
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: East Sussex
Programs: BAEC GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 29
@Lucanesque next time, it's much easier to simply hold the booking then call AA's UK number (or whatever local number you prefer) and ask them to change it to GBP. It's worked for me the last 3 times and for others almost without fail. On one occasion I did get an AA agent who didn't know how to do it, but I was transferred to someone who did.
#2263
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
@Lucanesque next time, it's much easier to simply hold the booking then call AA's UK number (or whatever local number you prefer) and ask them to change it to GBP. It's worked for me the last 3 times and for others almost without fail. On one occasion I did get an AA agent who didn't know how to do it, but I was transferred to someone who did.
Thanks for everyone's help yesterday, just checked and the same flights today are £3,817 This'll be my first full-on TP run (I don't count a trip to Jersey for lunch to get me Silver years ago ), this is part of my game plan to get GGL in my next collection year so I can use jokers to secure flights to Japan for the RWC! Currently got flights booked getting me 2,270TP with a potential trip to Vegas for another 920, so that'll leave me 1,810 points to push for whenever there's some offers worth grabbing.
#2264
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
Hi Lucanesque. Great objective but I recall that jokers don't guarantee unlimited availability. The jokers used per flight is limited and there are reports that once the quota of jokers for a flight has been used, a subsequent GGL wanting to use theirs won't work. I don't recall the exact detail but perhaps someone with a better memory will be along soon. Having said that, I've never had a problem with the flights I wanted.
#2265
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
Hi Lucanesque. Great objective but I recall that jokers don't guarantee unlimited availability. The jokers used per flight is limited and there are reports that once the quota of jokers for a flight has been used, a subsequent GGL wanting to use theirs won't work. I don't recall the exact detail but perhaps someone with a better memory will be along soon. Having said that, I've never had a problem with the flights I wanted.