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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:15 am
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BA115 14th Dec cancelled

I've just received a text message informing me that BA115 LHR - JFK on the 14th December has been cancelled. Out of interest would anyone know why? We were scheduled to depart at 1400 and have now automatically been kindly rebooked onto BA175, departing at 0940. Just a shame that I'll have to fork out for an overnight hotel and have a little less spending money now!
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by stevebintley
I've just received a text message informing me that BA115 LHR - JFK on the 14th December has been cancelled. Out of interest would anyone know why? We were scheduled to depart at 1400 and have now automatically been kindly rebooked onto BA175, departing at 0940. Just a shame that I'll have to fork out for an overnight hotel and have a little less spending money now!
You can call BA and get rebooked to another service which is more suitable for you.
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:21 am
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Presumably that's 0940 the next day?

Shouldn't there also be duty of care accommodation by the airline, together with compensation for the short notice cancellation and a very different arrival/departure time?
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:21 am
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Perhaps saving an aircraft / crew from a potentially quiet flight and merging - although this would result in a return cut too? Phone with your preferred flight choice and you'll most likely get a switch absolutely not problem
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by Cymro
Presumably that's 0940 the next day?

Shouldn't there also be duty of care accommodation by the airline, together with compensation for the short notice cancellation and a very different arrival/departure time?
No, 9am that morning. I had a quick search but unsurprisingly I couldn't find any results for a cancellation yet arriving earlier than the original!

Once I have a few minutes I'll take a look at the alternative options, but I'm guessing this close there won't be many choices given the cancellation...
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:35 am
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Be careful not to accept anything until you have looked at all the options. You only get one change free of charge, so if you accept the 9am flight and then find a better one, they'd charge you the change fee.
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by stevebintley
No, 9am that morning. I had a quick search but unsurprisingly I couldn't find any results for a cancellation yet arriving earlier than the original!

Once I have a few minutes I'll take a look at the alternative options, but I'm guessing this close there won't be many choices given the cancellation...
This is the availability:

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Departing LHR on 12/14/17 12:00 AM for JFK
Flying BA AA 
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 117        0      LHR                JFK                777       T,W,Th,Sa       F2 A1 J5 C2 D1 R0 I0 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S5 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     12/14/17 8:25 AM   12/14/17 11:30 AM            77% / 18m

0 Connections
AA (BA) 6138  0      LHR                JFK                777       Daily           F2 A1 J5 R1 D0 I0 W7 P6 Y7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V7 S5 N0 Q0 O0 
                     12/14/17 8:25 AM   12/14/17 11:30 AM            77% / 18m

0 Connections
BA 175        0      LHR                JFK                744       Su,M,T,W,Th,F   F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     12/14/17 9:40 AM   12/14/17 12:40 PM            74% / 22m

0 Connections
AA (BA) 6140  0      LHR                JFK                747       Su,M,T,W,Th,F   F0 A0 J7 R7 D7 I0 W0 P0 Y1 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 
                     12/14/17 9:40 AM   12/14/17 12:40 PM            74% / 22m

0 Connections
AA 101        0      LHR                JFK                772       Daily           J7 R7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L6 G0 V4 S4 N0 Q0 O0 
                     12/14/17 10:15 AM  12/14/17 1:20 PM             81% / 18m

0 Connections
BA (AA) 1516  0      LHR                JFK                772       Daily           J7 C7 D7 R7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L6 V4 N0 S4 O0 Q0 G0 
                     12/14/17 10:15 AM  12/14/17 1:20 PM             81% / 18m

0 Connections
BA 173        0      LHR                JFK                777       Su,M,W,Th,F,Sa  F3 A2 J9 C5 D5 R3 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     12/14/17 11:20 AM  12/14/17 2:20 PM             68% / 24m

0 Connections
AA (BA) 6214  0      LHR                JFK                777       Daily           F3 A2 J7 R5 D3 I0 W0 P0 Y0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 
                     12/14/17 11:20 AM  12/14/17 2:20 PM             68% / 24m

0 Connections
BA 177        0      LHR                JFK                777       Daily           F1 A0 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y4 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     12/14/17 1:05 PM   12/14/17 4:20 PM             77% / 19m

0 Connections
AA (BA) 6142  0      LHR                JFK                777       Daily           F1 A0 J2 R0 D0 I0 W0 P0 Y4 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 
                     12/14/17 1:05 PM   12/14/17 4:20 PM             77% / 19m

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AA (BA) 6136  0      LHR                JFK                777       M,W,Th,F,Sa     Flight Cancelled
                     12/14/17 1:55 PM   12/14/17 5:10 PM             82% / 23m

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AA 105        0      LHR                JFK                772       Daily           J7 R7 D7 I6 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 G0 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O6 
                     12/14/17 2:45 PM   12/14/17 5:55 PM             90% / 17m
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:35 am
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There seems to be several better timed flights with availability the OP could choose from if he would rather depart closer to the original departure time.
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by windowontheAside
Be careful not to accept anything until you have looked at all the options. You only get one change free of charge, so if you accept the 9am flight and then find a better one, they'd charge you the change fee.
Thats interesting. Does the fact that I've rebooked the seats on the new flight count as acceptance?
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by stevebintley
No, 9am that morning. I had a quick search but unsurprisingly I couldn't find any results for a cancellation yet arriving earlier than the original!

Once I have a few minutes I'll take a look at the alternative options, but I'm guessing this close there won't be many choices given the cancellation...
OK, I misunderstood as I thought it was JFK-LHR for some reason. In that case you may not be entitled to accommodation/care, but you would be entitled to EU261 compensation under Art. 5, Para. 1, Item (ii) as your departure is more than 2 hours before. BA177 at 13.05 has availability in all cabins, however. As it is not a voluntary change, you should be entitled to travel on that flight regardless of the fare bucket you originally booked.
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 10:41 am
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Thank you florens
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 11:55 am
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For the record, in this situation BA normally rebooks people on an alternative service automatically, since that is what customers told them they wanted. However, you are not deemed automatically to have accepted them until you actually do, and are free to select an alternative should it suit you better - just call or ask at the airport and if there is availability, it will be yours. In the case of US/Canada ops, this can include reroutings on AA. If their suggested alternative is the next day, you can claim a hotel cost under EU261 'duty of care' rules, on which there is a whole separate thread.
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Old Dec 4, 2017, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by LordBuckethead
For the record, in this situation BA normally rebooks people on an alternative service automatically, since that is what customers told them they wanted. However, you are not deemed automatically to have accepted them until you actually do, and are free to select an alternative should it suit you better - just call or ask at the airport and if there is availability, it will be yours. In the case of US/Canada ops, this can include reroutings on AA. If their suggested alternative is the next day, you can claim a hotel cost under EU261 'duty of care' rules, on which there is a whole separate thread.
I wouldn't wait until the day of flight, which in the OP's case is 10 days out. Call now and get rebooked onto a service that suits you more.
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