Legality of children alone in row?
#32
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Might have been one parent, three kids. Not ideal, but would explain in that I wouldn't want my young child seated alone next to strangers.
OP, any idea where the parent(s) was/were sat?
OP, any idea where the parent(s) was/were sat?
#33
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How do parents book into a different cabin to young children?
They would have to be on separate PNRs - does BA allow a booking to contain three toddlers and no adult on the PNR?
How would this affect an IRROPS if either the adult or the child was "rescheduled"?
They would have to be on separate PNRs - does BA allow a booking to contain three toddlers and no adult on the PNR?
How would this affect an IRROPS if either the adult or the child was "rescheduled"?
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https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...avel-documents
All children under 12 years must be accompanied by an adult aged 16 years or over. You won't be able to make a booking for a child to travel on their own.
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Some of you see this as a safety risk. I see this as a business opportunity for BA.
For long distance flights can't we just seal off a couple of rows, call it 'creche class' and let the lovely kiddiwinks play between themselves? The cabin crew could just leave a few bottles of coca cola and buckets of e-number fuelled sweets for them to keep themselves fed and watered whilst they watch a loop of Peppa Pig on the IFE for 10 hours?
Meanwhile all the parents are kept in the rows at the back of the plane, provided with some full bottles of wines and diazepam so they can have a well deserved rest safe in the knowledge that other passengers are keeping an eye on their loved ones?
For long distance flights can't we just seal off a couple of rows, call it 'creche class' and let the lovely kiddiwinks play between themselves? The cabin crew could just leave a few bottles of coca cola and buckets of e-number fuelled sweets for them to keep themselves fed and watered whilst they watch a loop of Peppa Pig on the IFE for 10 hours?
Meanwhile all the parents are kept in the rows at the back of the plane, provided with some full bottles of wines and diazepam so they can have a well deserved rest safe in the knowledge that other passengers are keeping an eye on their loved ones?
#37
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Where are you seeing that the adults were in a different cabin? It isn't clear where the adults were.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...avel-documents
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...avel-documents
But more generally my question is more "is it possible to..." in terms of booking an adult in J and three toddlers in Y?
#38
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It's stated at the end of the page:-
Booking a child into a different cabin from yourself
You can book your child to travel in a different cabin from yourself. Just make your booking first, then contact us to make a separate booking for your child.
Children between 5 and 12 can be booked into a different cabin from you.
Children under 5 must travel with someone over the age of 16.
If you are a Gold or Silver Executive Club Member, you can take your child into the lounge as your eligible guest, regardless of the cabin you're travelling in.
You should board the aircraft as a family, with your child. Once on board your child will be directed to their seat in the cabin that they are booked into.
You, as the child’s parent or guardian, will be responsible for their health, wellbeing and behaviour, both on the ground and on board. Please ensure that your child understands that they must follow crew instructions at all times and make sure they have any necessary items with them before boarding as it may not always be possible for you to visit them during the flight.
Should your child need any assistance during the flight, you will need to voluntarily downgrade to the same cabin as your child. We are unable to upgrade your child to the cabin you’re travelling in.
Booking a child into a different cabin from yourself
You can book your child to travel in a different cabin from yourself. Just make your booking first, then contact us to make a separate booking for your child.
Children between 5 and 12 can be booked into a different cabin from you.
Children under 5 must travel with someone over the age of 16.
If you are a Gold or Silver Executive Club Member, you can take your child into the lounge as your eligible guest, regardless of the cabin you're travelling in.
You should board the aircraft as a family, with your child. Once on board your child will be directed to their seat in the cabin that they are booked into.
You, as the child’s parent or guardian, will be responsible for their health, wellbeing and behaviour, both on the ground and on board. Please ensure that your child understands that they must follow crew instructions at all times and make sure they have any necessary items with them before boarding as it may not always be possible for you to visit them during the flight.
Should your child need any assistance during the flight, you will need to voluntarily downgrade to the same cabin as your child. We are unable to upgrade your child to the cabin you’re travelling in.
#40
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Children between 5 and 12 can be booked into a different cabin from you.
Children under 5 must travel with someone over the age of 16.
If you are a Gold or Silver Executive Club Member, you can take your child into the lounge as your eligible guest, regardless of the cabin you're travelling in.
You should board the aircraft as a family, with your child. Once on board your child will be directed to their seat in the cabin that they are booked into.
You, as the child’s parent or guardian, will be responsible for their health, wellbeing and behaviour, both on the ground and on board. Please ensure that your child understands that they must follow crew instructions at all times and make sure they have any necessary items with them before boarding as it may not always be possible for you to visit them during the flight.
Should your child need any assistance during the flight, you will need to voluntarily downgrade to the same cabin as your child. We are unable to upgrade your child to the cabin you’re travelling in.
Children under 5 must travel with someone over the age of 16.
If you are a Gold or Silver Executive Club Member, you can take your child into the lounge as your eligible guest, regardless of the cabin you're travelling in.
You should board the aircraft as a family, with your child. Once on board your child will be directed to their seat in the cabin that they are booked into.
You, as the child’s parent or guardian, will be responsible for their health, wellbeing and behaviour, both on the ground and on board. Please ensure that your child understands that they must follow crew instructions at all times and make sure they have any necessary items with them before boarding as it may not always be possible for you to visit them during the flight.
Should your child need any assistance during the flight, you will need to voluntarily downgrade to the same cabin as your child. We are unable to upgrade your child to the cabin you’re travelling in.
Absolutely no way he could be trusted not to get up to mischief (albeit unintentionally) in a different cabin).
That being said, where do you set that bar? 12 would be an obvious choice, though most would consider their 10/11 yr olds perfectly capable of behaving. 8, perhaps? 5 just seems rather low to me?
#41
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Hmmmm. 5 seems mightily young. I was on a (day) flight to JFK earlier this year with my kids and my 4yr old (now almost 5) was sat in the E seat, with me in the K, so I was slightly ahead of him. I noticed the CC smirking at him, and an older lady in 1A turn around and look down the cabin laughing just after take off. I take off my NC headphones and, mortifyingly, The Boy is singing along to "Ooo be do" by King Louie on his headphones, blissfully unaware he's serenading the entire cabin.
Absolutely no way he could be trusted not to get up to mischief (albeit unintentionally) in a different cabin).
That being said, where do you set that bar? 12 would be an obvious choice, though most would consider their 10/11 yr olds perfectly capable of behaving. 8, perhaps? 5 just seems rather low to me?
Absolutely no way he could be trusted not to get up to mischief (albeit unintentionally) in a different cabin).
That being said, where do you set that bar? 12 would be an obvious choice, though most would consider their 10/11 yr olds perfectly capable of behaving. 8, perhaps? 5 just seems rather low to me?
Love the story of your boy singing to the cabin
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Some of you see this as a safety risk. I see this as a business opportunity for BA.
For long distance flights can't we just seal off a couple of rows, call it 'creche class' and let the lovely kiddiwinks play between themselves? The cabin crew could just leave a few bottles of coca cola and buckets of e-number fuelled sweets for them to keep themselves fed and watered whilst they watch a loop of Peppa Pig on the IFE for 10 hours?
Meanwhile all the parents are kept in the rows at the back of the plane, provided with some full bottles of wines and diazepam so they can have a well deserved rest safe in the knowledge that other passengers are keeping an eye on their loved ones?
For long distance flights can't we just seal off a couple of rows, call it 'creche class' and let the lovely kiddiwinks play between themselves? The cabin crew could just leave a few bottles of coca cola and buckets of e-number fuelled sweets for them to keep themselves fed and watered whilst they watch a loop of Peppa Pig on the IFE for 10 hours?
Meanwhile all the parents are kept in the rows at the back of the plane, provided with some full bottles of wines and diazepam so they can have a well deserved rest safe in the knowledge that other passengers are keeping an eye on their loved ones?
#43
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1) How old is 'old enough' to travel in a different cabin to parents.
2) Should children be allowed to travel more than one cabin back from where parents are sitting?
#44
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3) Should children be allowed to travel in a class higher than their parents on their own (Child in F, Parents in J?) and if so how would an issue be dealt with (Would the parents gets upgraded to F or the Child downgraded to J).
I would also be interested to know if there is an issue that means the parents have to go look after their child, what happens when the cabin is full - do the parents give up their seat to someone else/swap?