Nosiness at First Check-in
#32
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Does CCR status really generate a number of op ups - and to clarify is this for the card holder or their partner? In the last few years, the only upgrades I've ever had have been once a year, from ET to CE, and only when travelling on a fully flex ticket purchased at the last minute. I'm normally on corporate fares and tend to get diddly squat. Never had a long haul upgrade
#33
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I look forward to introducing myself to you at some point, CWS. I've seen you in the CCR a couple of times, having recognised you from the photos you've posted on here previously. If that doesn't sound too stalkerish!
#34
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The big clue is the fact that ravens go around in pairs or singles, crows go around in much larger flocks. Hence the Gaelic saying, "Raven, seek thy brother".
#35
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The fact is BA will prefer to upgrade a Silver into CW/F if they have recently flown a few legs in WTP or CW to try and get them to start buying the higher cabin.
I had a CCR card for a couple of years and didn't get a single upgrade (generally flying paid CW). Once I dropped down to 'normal' GGL, I've had a couple of upgrades to F.
I had a CCR card for a couple of years and didn't get a single upgrade (generally flying paid CW). Once I dropped down to 'normal' GGL, I've had a couple of upgrades to F.
When I was Silver I got a couple opups from WT+ to J.
#36
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I think this is SO route and date dependent - I fairly frequently end up with a J to F opup to/from asia and have had a few W to J on TATL trips but never J to F TATL.
#37
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Regarding op-ups, in the many years prior to GGL I was 0 for X. Since reaching GGL/CCR, I've mostly flown in flights without an option to be upgraded (e.g. Already in F or CE), but on flights where an op-up was possible, I'm 2 for 2 between LHR and PHX (CW-F), 0 for 2 between LHR and JFK (CW) and 0 for 1 on shorthaul (AMS-LGW, but was traveling with my family and would never expect 5 to be op-uped). Overall between op-ups, jokers and GUF it's meant that I've mostly flown in F instead of CW.
#38
Join Date: Feb 2010
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I'm based between Austria and Spain so I'm not at Heathrow all that often but in future I'll make a point of saying hello if I see someone with a coffee mug
As for the op-ups, I've noticed no increase at all (from a very low base) since attaining CCR. I've had one in the last year, LHR-LBA, which I suspect may have been a case of giving me a taste of the new service to see if I might pay for CE on domestic flights in future.
#39
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#40
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Count me among the shy, non-regular posters with a CCR who hasn't met cws
I'm based between Austria and Spain so I'm not at Heathrow all that often but in future I'll make a point of saying hello if I see someone with a coffee mug
As for the op-ups, I've noticed no increase at all (from a very low base) since attaining CCR. I've had one in the last year, LHR-LBA, which I suspect may have been a case of giving me a taste of the new service to see if I might pay for CE on domestic flights in future.
I'm based between Austria and Spain so I'm not at Heathrow all that often but in future I'll make a point of saying hello if I see someone with a coffee mug
As for the op-ups, I've noticed no increase at all (from a very low base) since attaining CCR. I've had one in the last year, LHR-LBA, which I suspect may have been a case of giving me a taste of the new service to see if I might pay for CE on domestic flights in future.
Regarding op-ups, no difference from when I was Gold, this year just 1 or 2 so far.
#41
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Not ravens, but I was taught that if you see lots of crows together, they are rooks, and if you see a rook on its own, its a crow
#43
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Given the number of threads here historically, and the number of insiders generous enough to share their time and insight into the workings behind the assorted curtains (literal and figurative), surely the process behind op-ups has been done to death elsewhere?
Not a criticism, I am just assuming there is actually a formula somewhere, however prosaic it is, albeit with a juducious amount of leeway given to check-in and gate staff, and that this scoring system, or whatever it is, is known, at least in general terms, to some of the posters here/???
Not a criticism, I am just assuming there is actually a formula somewhere, however prosaic it is, albeit with a juducious amount of leeway given to check-in and gate staff, and that this scoring system, or whatever it is, is known, at least in general terms, to some of the posters here/???
#44
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Not a criticism, I am just assuming there is actually a formula somewhere, however prosaic it is, albeit with a juducious amount of leeway given to check-in and gate staff, and that this scoring system, or whatever it is, is known, at least in general terms, to some of the posters here/???
#45
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Perhaps we should do a Lounge Swap - we each spend a week in the alternative domain.
Must dash - Channel 5 are on the phone for the format
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