Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#1052
Join Date: Oct 2014
Programs: BA GGL, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 813
Hello all
Could someone please check BA107 8/2 and BA106 13/2? In W and want to know what the loads are as looks pretty oversold in Y and W on way out at least.
thanks!
Could someone please check BA107 8/2 and BA106 13/2? In W and want to know what the loads are as looks pretty oversold in Y and W on way out at least.
thanks!
#1053
formerly mattking2000
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: DXB
Programs: BA|AC|AZ|SPG|H|FPC
Posts: 1,187
BA 1070LHR
02/08/18 12:35 PMDXB
02/08/18 11:45 PM744
Th,Sa
73% / 50mF8 A7 J9 C9 D8 R6 I6 W2 E0 T0 Y4 B2
H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 1060DXB
02/13/18 2:25 AMLHR
02/13/18 6:25 AM744
Daily
87% / 44mF7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9
H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
#1054
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 32
Could someone please check BA 2155, LGW to BGI Saturday the 27th January 2018 @ 10:35
#1057
Join Date: Dec 2017
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 16
Hello,
Could somebody very Kindly check BA207 - Tuesday 30/01/18 - LHR - MIA.
Also does anybody know if this is T3 or T5?
Thanks
Could somebody very Kindly check BA207 - Tuesday 30/01/18 - LHR - MIA.
Also does anybody know if this is T3 or T5?
Thanks
#1058
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
TUE 30JAN18 LONDON AREA /MIAMI
1 LHR MIA 0915 1405 BA 207
F1 A0 J9 C5 D3 RC IC W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 OC G9
DEPARTS LHR TERMINAL 3
Also a nice little note from BA that has no relevance to you at all!
*NEW BA ROUTE LGWFLL EFF 6JUL17 ALT ROUTE TO MIA*
#1059
Join Date: Dec 2017
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 16
Thank you Sam for the quick reply!
Is there any chance to also check BA209? Same route, same day?
Is there any chance to also check BA209? Same route, same day?
#1060
#1061
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Honors Gold
Posts: 169
Can anyone point me in the correct direction regarding seat loads for JAL domestic please?
Specifically JL3002 (ITM-NRT) 23APR2018
Thanks
Specifically JL3002 (ITM-NRT) 23APR2018
Thanks
#1063
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Honors Gold
Posts: 169
Many thanks!
The aircraft is a 767 (for a domestic sector) - do these stats infer a busy flight or just a JAL reservation oddity?
As a comparison, can I get the load stats for the same flight on 17APR2018 please? (BA show it as having 5 redemption seats available...I would be keen to understand what fare code they come from)
Thanks again!
The aircraft is a 767 (for a domestic sector) - do these stats infer a busy flight or just a JAL reservation oddity?
As a comparison, can I get the load stats for the same flight on 17APR2018 please? (BA show it as having 5 redemption seats available...I would be keen to understand what fare code they come from)
Thanks again!
#1064
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: UA MM, AA PPro
Posts: 1,480
Many thanks!
The aircraft is a 767 (for a domestic sector) - do these stats infer a busy flight or just a JAL reservation oddity?
As a comparison, can I get the load stats for the same flight on 17APR2018 please? (BA show it as having 5 redemption seats available...I would be keen to understand what fare code they come from)
Thanks again!
The aircraft is a 767 (for a domestic sector) - do these stats infer a busy flight or just a JAL reservation oddity?
As a comparison, can I get the load stats for the same flight on 17APR2018 please? (BA show it as having 5 redemption seats available...I would be keen to understand what fare code they come from)
Thanks again!
BA 3445 (same flight) J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
Award seats frequently come from buckets that are not shown outside of internal reservation systems.
#1065
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
Many thanks!
The aircraft is a 767 (for a domestic sector) - do these stats infer a busy flight or just a JAL reservation oddity?
As a comparison, can I get the load stats for the same flight on 17APR2018 please? (BA show it as having 5 redemption seats available...I would be keen to understand what fare code they come from)
Thanks again!
The aircraft is a 767 (for a domestic sector) - do these stats infer a busy flight or just a JAL reservation oddity?
As a comparison, can I get the load stats for the same flight on 17APR2018 please? (BA show it as having 5 redemption seats available...I would be keen to understand what fare code they come from)
Thanks again!
It's a bit of a weird one. Basically JL are only selling 3 x economy buckets for this route - or rather 2, as I can't see any H Class fares loaded (may exist for CONSOL/ITX fares).
They do a discounted 30 day APEX in G, then Y, then J, but I can't see any J available all year. There is an F Class fare loaded, but I can't see any F
So what's i'd deduct is that there is another fare bucket for redemptions that are not publicly available. That's quite common - I use it for staff fares. You can't actually see the availability in a certain subclass, so have to manually request / long sell to get availability. No idea what it is though, so can't request it (ie. one Gulf Carrier offer staff fares in X Class which you can't see). You'd need someone at the airline to confirm what bucket the BA redemptions are booked into.