Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#301
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: YVR, HNL
Programs: AS 75k, UA peon, BA Bronze, AC E50k, Marriott Plat, HH Diamond, Fairmont Plat (RIP)
Posts: 7,834
#302
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SFO, LON
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Bonvoy Tit, Hilton Dia etc etc
Posts: 2,354
Yes, 1K is taken. I wouldn't rush, ask on the 22nd and see what folks say, or just try on the 23rd to see if it's still open, assuming you want to do 1A/2A, but no 1a/1K possible right now.
#303
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: YVR, HNL
Programs: AS 75k, UA peon, BA Bronze, AC E50k, Marriott Plat, HH Diamond, Fairmont Plat (RIP)
Posts: 7,834
#304
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 2
Can someone please tell me seat availability on:
(1) BA 48 on 3'rd July 2018
(2) BA 48 on 4'th July 2018
thx!
-pks
(1) BA 48 on 3'rd July 2018
(2) BA 48 on 4'th July 2018
thx!
-pks
#305
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,201
BA 48 SEA-LHR (late flight):
F9 A9
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9
W9 E0 T0
Y9 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
On 4 July:
F9 A9
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9
W9 E0 T0
Y9 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Basically, at this stage, I'd suggest that prices are high because they're only interested in attracting those who are desperate to travel. Give it three months or so and, while transatlantic economy non-stops in summer are invariably expensive, availability will be more normal.
While a few seats are assigned, most are blocked due to bassinets or are reserved as exit rows for golds.
During a Christmas sale you are very likely to find good business class prices because of the summer/public holiday drop-off, even if economy and WTP are still relatively expensive.
F9 A9
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9
W9 E0 T0
Y9 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
On 4 July:
F9 A9
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9
W9 E0 T0
Y9 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Basically, at this stage, I'd suggest that prices are high because they're only interested in attracting those who are desperate to travel. Give it three months or so and, while transatlantic economy non-stops in summer are invariably expensive, availability will be more normal.
While a few seats are assigned, most are blocked due to bassinets or are reserved as exit rows for golds.
During a Christmas sale you are very likely to find good business class prices because of the summer/public holiday drop-off, even if economy and WTP are still relatively expensive.
#306
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: BAEC - Gold
Posts: 47
Could someone please do a seat check for City Airport (London) - John F Kennedy (NY) (New York), BA0001, 09:40 Wed 13 Sep 2017, Club World?
Many thanks
Many thanks
#307
#308
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
WED 13SEP17 LONDON /NEW YORK CIT
LCY1JFK 0940 1405 BA 1
J9 C4 D4 RC I0
There is availability, just not in the cheapest fare buckets (mind you R & I class may have APEX restrictions so you may have availability at the cheapest fares)
#309
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: BAEC - Gold
Posts: 47
You only get Club World on this flight
WED 13SEP17 LONDON /NEW YORK CIT
LCY1JFK 0940 1405 BA 1
J9 C4 D4 RC I0
There is availability, just not in the cheapest fare buckets (mind you R & I class may have APEX restrictions so you may have availability at the cheapest fares)
WED 13SEP17 LONDON /NEW YORK CIT
LCY1JFK 0940 1405 BA 1
J9 C4 D4 RC I0
There is availability, just not in the cheapest fare buckets (mind you R & I class may have APEX restrictions so you may have availability at the cheapest fares)
#310
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC - Silver
Posts: 2
Hi All,
Might someone be able to tell me what WT+ on BA269 LHR>LAX looks like on the 19th Sept? I POUG'd from WT, but from the seat map, WT+ is looking depressingly busy.
Thank you!
Might someone be able to tell me what WT+ on BA269 LHR>LAX looks like on the 19th Sept? I POUG'd from WT, but from the seat map, WT+ is looking depressingly busy.
Thank you!
Last edited by ahibbitt; Sep 6, 2017 at 5:11 am
#311
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SFO, LON
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Bonvoy Tit, Hilton Dia etc etc
Posts: 2,354
As for your flight, I am seeing
F5 A4 J9 C8 D4 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S8 N7 Q0 O0 G0
Flight's busy-ish out front and WT+ is certainly very busy, tho' 61 A/K and 60 D/F are blocked right now, not assigned. You never know, might get bumped up again
#312
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC - Silver
Posts: 2
Welcome to Flyertalk! Hope you find good reason to stick around.
As for your flight, I am seeing
F5 A4 J9 C8 D4 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S8 N7 Q0 O0 G0
Flight's busy-ish out front and WT+ is certainly very busy, tho' 61 A/K and 60 D/F are blocked right now, not assigned. You never know, might get bumped up again
As for your flight, I am seeing
F5 A4 J9 C8 D4 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S8 N7 Q0 O0 G0
Flight's busy-ish out front and WT+ is certainly very busy, tho' 61 A/K and 60 D/F are blocked right now, not assigned. You never know, might get bumped up again
Thank you for the information; I've currently got a VLML booked, but given it's so busy and my CIV should hopefully be top-end for a bronze, I might well cancel it and hope for the OpUp!
#313
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: HKG; LHR
Programs: BA GOLD
Posts: 74
How's BA32 / 25SEP / HKG-LHR looking?
#314
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,201
F6 A5
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9
W9 E9 T5
Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Take your pick in the front, though T5 and I9 suggests that WTP could be getting full already (but plenty of more tickets to be sold).
Busy-ish down the back but V8 doesn't suggest overbooking yet, or anything like it.
Plenty can change in just over two weeks though.
J9 C9 D9 R9 I9
W9 E9 T5
Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V8 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Take your pick in the front, though T5 and I9 suggests that WTP could be getting full already (but plenty of more tickets to be sold).
Busy-ish down the back but V8 doesn't suggest overbooking yet, or anything like it.
Plenty can change in just over two weeks though.
#315
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,774
Could someone check for me BA5 and BA7 (LHR-HND/NRT) on Friday 8 Sep please. If any BA insiders could possibly PM me the standby loads too, that would be especially helpful!
Thanks.
Thanks.