Originally Posted by streetmagix
(Post 28265543)
I think things are slowly changing, I was in Offenburg (for Europa-Park) and Frankfurt last week and pretty much all the shops and food places I visited had contactless card readers and I saw quite a few people use them. All the stations had the 'new' DB/RMV ticket machines with card readers.
I'm off to Berlin at the end of the year, should be interesting if it's any different there. Last time I was there almost no where took cards. |
Originally Posted by streetmagix
(Post 28265543)
I think things are slowly changing, I was in Offenburg (for Europa-Park) and Frankfurt last week and pretty much all the shops and food places I visited had contactless card readers and I saw quite a few people use them. All the stations had the 'new' DB/RMV ticket machines with card readers.
I'm off to Berlin at the end of the year, should be interesting if it's any different there. Last time I was there almost no where took cards. And BA is a British airline so tries to apply that policy, which in practice internationally is not so easy to implement due to different payment cultures. |
Originally Posted by headingwest
(Post 28260937)
And the fact of the matter is that each new day they continue with this BoB service BA are subjecting their product to more and more negative feedback and potentially lost future bookings. It's not rocket science.
The impact for me on my decision making hasn't just been SH but LH too, and my experience so far this year on other carriers has exceeded what BA generally provides - hard product, cleanliness, catering, all have been better. The only consistent thing that BA beats other carriers on is the cabin crew, however, has has been pointed out, you remove the ability for CC to go that little extra and then that disappears too. Many CC I now talk to are openly embarassed about the company they work for, and seem to spend a lot of time apologizing for the declines they see in a company they were once proud to work for. I'll still fly BA occasionally when schedules favour but thats it. I'm sure Mr Cruz doesn't give two hoots about losing the annual 6 figure sum my company used to spend with BA thats gone to other carriers, but he should also be aware that word of mouth and personal endorsement also matter and when I'm asked (which is quite often!) I no longer now recommend to colleagues and friends to fly BA, and infact now actively encourage them to look at other carriers. Ultimately time will tell whether Mr Cruz is making the right choices, whichever way it works out BoB is going to be a defining moment in BA's history! |
Originally Posted by Bluebirdnick
(Post 28265500)
Indeed. Deutsche bahn don't even take payment by credit card at some stations for transactions under eur 20. On a recent trip to my old uni town, we had to pay with cash at about half of the restaurants we visited and the accommodation didn't take credit card either. I was surprised, but there was absolutely no evidence from that trip that Germany is becoming increasingly cashless.
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Originally Posted by srbrenna
(Post 28265469)
It is very simple. BoB was introduced to give you quality and choice.
Corrected that for you. :) |
CDG-LHR yesterday afternoon, CC trying to sell bottled water instead of giving out tap water.
Needless to say, my cup of tap water never materialised again... |
Originally Posted by beany_bot
(Post 28265775)
It is very simple. BoB was introduced to g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶q̶u̶a̶l̶i̶t̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶h̶o̶i̶c̶e̶.̶ save BA on inclusive meals and extract more money from PAX while on board.
Corrected that for you. :) |
Originally Posted by DirtyDavey
(Post 28265703)
Agreed - my trips to Germany are one of the few where I still take hard cash with me. Taxis and restaurants still frequently don't take cards. I haven't experienced this with hotels over the last few years though, they do seem to be better, though do seem to insist of using the practice of 'holding' a deposit on your card which can be annoying if you're close to your limit!
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Originally Posted by Bluebirdnick
(Post 28265500)
Indeed. Deutsche bahn don't even take payment by credit card at some stations for transactions under eur 20. On a recent trip to my old uni town, we had to pay with cash at about half of the restaurants we visited and the accommodation didn't take credit card either. I was surprised, but there was absolutely no evidence from that trip that Germany is becoming increasingly cashless.
When the Lufthansa A380 arrives or departs at MIA, there are frequently sniffer dog for cash as I once on the TV show Miami Airport 24/7 saw two German doctors carrying $20K cash... It isn't a problem with the quantity of cash you have but rather if you fail to declare anything over $10K. They are losing lots of revenue as those who want to purchase something can't and those who want to get rid of their last £'s and give them to Cruz. You'd think Cruz would take all the money he can get... |
Originally Posted by BA6948
(Post 28265855)
It is laughable that some still believe BA is doing it to give choice and quality. On routes to Band 4, BA used to give quality and choice (hot meal tray) but that has been taken away. On other routes the offering was not bad (flat breads, wraps or full breakfast on domestic).
Is it really choice and quality to have to pay for water and coffee? Well it sure is a choice as I don't want to pay £2.30 for a hot beverage on a "full service" carrier but it ain't quality to me other than bad quality. |
Another cutting review on airlinequality.com. There are some passengers that valued the old service who don't bother with the new "quality and choice" offered by rip off BA.
Flew Nice to London with British Airways in economy. Won't bother again. Moving most of my travel to KLM/LH now where I can at least get a complimentary G&T. BA nice flight had minimal legroom, only 1 lavatory at the back (with aisle blocked however by crew selling buy on board). So low cost. So over them. |
Reports on twitter on flights coming back from Funchal and Athens without food after the first few rows. passengers are pissed and angry on twitter. Shambles continue!
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Originally Posted by layz
(Post 28265557)
Did the card readers accept card types common outside Germany? I remember many ticket machines would accept EC and Maestro, neither any use for a UK resident.
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Originally Posted by BA6948
(Post 28266989)
Reports on twitter on flights coming back from Funchal and Athens without food after the first few rows. passengers are pissed and angry on twitter. Shambles continue!
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Remember that the Wifi will have a price, it will not be free. And if it's organised by the same team, the whole plane will have a throughout of 1MB total :D
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