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Maluku_Flyer May 7, 2017 10:05 am


Originally Posted by Great_circle (Post 28231971)
I never had a chance to 'use' it. The Silver card however was needed on some occasions when visiting a different Oneworld lounge than the dedicated lounge. Despite status and number on the boarding pass.

I recall being turned away at an Admirals Club a couple of years ago until I produced the card. Happened only once, though.

Maluku_Flyer May 7, 2017 10:14 am


Originally Posted by etiene (Post 28270635)
This isn't what has happened with my membership: I must have registered in August a couple of years ago and my membership year is running to September despite my first flights only crediting in March this year.


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 28270805)
Something must have been credited at the time to set off the membership year.


That's my experience as well. Registered in June 2012, first flight was in August, membership year ends September 8.

Maluku_Flyer May 7, 2017 10:25 am


Originally Posted by etiene (Post 28270862)
ETA: I suppose it's possible the inactivity delay only lasts a year max, after which your date gets set automatically - as I say registration was 2015 so that would account for it.

So your account was "reset to zero" after one year even though the clock never actually (should have) started running. That sounds like a programming error. Give them a call.

etiene May 8, 2017 4:27 am


Originally Posted by Maluku_Flyer (Post 28279699)
So your account was "reset to zero" after one year even though the clock never actually (should have) started running. That sounds like a programming error. Give them a call.

Not necessarily a problem - current plans would take me to only ~1,200TPs by the end of the theoretical year I should have whereas this will allow me to regain Silver next year and carry that to October 2019. If things come up which would take me closer to 1,500 I may see what they'll do.

MattTaiwan May 9, 2017 6:39 am

I recently achieved Gold before the May 8, the tier points collection year ends. However I just flown 4 QR flights between Apr. 28 - May 2 which did not request to input my BA membership number.

I am wondering if I contact EXEC to claim the missing miles/tier points now, those tier points will be counted into the 2018 membership year? or it will be reset to 0 since all flights were completed before the 2017 tier points collection year? Thanks!

KARFA May 9, 2017 6:49 am


Originally Posted by MattTaiwan (Post 28287657)
I recently achieved Gold before the May 8, the tier points collection year ends. However I just flown 4 QR flights between Apr. 28 - May 2 which did not request to input my BA membership number.

I am wondering if I contact EXEC to claim the missing miles/tier points now, those tier points will be counted into the 2018 membership year? or it will be reset to 0 since all flights were completed before the 2017 tier points collection year? Thanks!

They would be credited as of the date of each flight. They would not count towards your current membership year.

MattTaiwan May 9, 2017 6:54 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 28287696)
They would be credited as of the date of each flight. They would not count towards your current membership year.

:o Thanks for your reply. Maybe I should move those flights to my CX account...

irish_goat May 11, 2017 11:15 am

Quick question, as I live on the border I regularly exchange sterling for euros at a local bureau de change. They allow you to buy euros using a credit card in there as well. I'm wondering, if I get an Avios linked CC could I use it to buy euros and earn points? And would there be anything stopping me from changing those euros back into sterling and repeating the process?

The commission charge is roughly 5%, so if using the BA American Express card, for £1000 sterling I could get 1000 Avios and then be eligible for the 5000 bonus Avios after spending £1000 in the first month. Net cost £50.

In essence, I'd be buying 6000 Avios for £50. Only fear is if the use of the card at the bureau de change doesn't qualify.

The premium card would allow a spend of £3000 and earn me 4500 Avios plus a 25,000 bonus. Net cost of £150...

Anyone tried this method?

foolonthehill May 12, 2017 2:23 am


Originally Posted by irish_goat (Post 28298710)
I'm wondering, if I get an Avios linked CC could I use it to buy euros and earn points? And would there be anything stopping me from changing those euros back into sterling and repeating the process?

There's nothing to stop you, but I think you'll find it's not a good idea, and won't do what you want I'm afraid! Credit cards tend to treat cash advance transactions (including forex cash) very differently to normal purchases: they tend to have a higher interest rate (with no free period even if paid in full), extra charges and don't earn benefits. Presumably to avoid exactly what you are suggesting. From the Amex T&C's...

"No Avios will accrue on:
- interest, fees (including default fees), balance transfers, cash advances (including transactions treated as cash), loading of prepaid cards, American Express Travellers Cheque purchases or foreign exchange transactions; and
- any amounts that are subsequently re-credited to your Card Account by way of refunds or other types of credit."

irish_goat May 12, 2017 3:20 am


Originally Posted by foolonthehill (Post 28301629)
There's nothing to stop you, but I think you'll find it's not a good idea, and won't do what you want I'm afraid! Credit cards tend to treat cash advance transactions (including forex cash) very differently to normal purchases: they tend to have a higher interest rate (with no free period even if paid in full), extra charges and don't earn benefits. Presumably to avoid exactly what you are suggesting. From the Amex T&C's...

"No Avios will accrue on:
- interest, fees (including default fees), balance transfers, cash advances (including transactions treated as cash), loading of prepaid cards, American Express Travellers Cheque purchases or foreign exchange transactions; and
- any amounts that are subsequently re-credited to your Card Account by way of refunds or other types of credit."

I thought that might be the case but the Lloyds bank terms and conditions doesn't mention cash advances.

†You will not collect Avios for: cash withdrawals, interest, fees or charges, transactions at casinos, betting outlets or bookmakers, payments to offline or online current accounts, savings, share-trading, spread-betting, gambling, any other similar account or fraudulent transactions.

foolonthehill May 12, 2017 7:26 am


Originally Posted by irish_goat (Post 28301710)
I thought that might be the case but the Lloyds bank terms and conditions doesn't mention cash advances.

It does say "cash withdrawals" (which this is, albeit in a different currency).

Slightly surprising that they didn't including foreign exchanges explicitly given the likely frequency of such transactions, but I would highly doubt you would ever earn avios.

memesweeper May 13, 2017 5:14 am

A curve card linked to Lloyds MC will earn Avios on cash withdrawals, including those on Euros from a foreign cash machine. Monthly limit on this of £200 pounds before you hit a limit which means curve to won't be free (2% per withdrawal) if funding with a Lloyds Credit Card. There's no limit if you fund with a debit card, but Avios earning debit cards are vanishingly rare.

Moomba May 16, 2017 4:51 am

This guide suggests that the 2/4 eligible flights needed to gain status can be codeshares on BA metal however the wording in the EC T&C's states otherwise.


Originally Posted by FT Guide
BA operated + BA flight prefix
BA operated + other flight prefix
Other carrier operated + BA flight prefix
IB operated + IB flight prefix


Originally Posted by BA.COM
6.2. Card entitlement is based on the number of Tier Points earned or total number of eligible flights taken in a Tier Point Collection Year. Each Member's Card status will be reviewed at the end of each Tier Point Collection Year before the expiry date of the current membership . Tier Points and eligible flights can only be counted once. At the end of each Tier Point Collection Year the Member's Tier Point or eligible flight level returns to zero. Members progress from Blue to Bronze, Bronze to Silver and from Silver to Gold. In order to achieve or retain Bronze status Members must ensure they take at least 2 flights operated and marketed by British Airways during each Tier Point Collection Year in addition to obtaining either the required number of Tier Points or completing the required number of eligible flights. In order to achieve or retain Silver or Gold status Members must ensure they take at least four flights operated by British Airways during each Tier Point Collection Year in addition to obtaining the required number of Tier Points.

This would suggest that in order to get the 2 qualifying flights for Bronze status one must flight BA marketed and BA metal flights.

Are the T&Cs wrong or our guide?

Globaliser May 16, 2017 4:53 am


Originally Posted by Moomba (Post 28317774)
Are the T&Cs wrong or our guide?

I'm pretty sure that the T&Cs are "wrong", in the sense that BA now does the more generous thing set out in our guide. IIRC, what's in the guide is no more than what Nicci said when she was BA Executive Club.

Moomba May 16, 2017 6:05 am

Thanks - didn't want to give a colleague incorrect information.


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