T8191

Happy CC, lower overheads, Pax don't care ... win, win, win??

However, on a Band 4 .....

psollitt

But on a BA LBA or MAN ( if the nose wheel works after todays issues .. 19/10/17 of it is due to a maintenance issue . ) .. they cannot with current crew supply a full Y class service in any ones dreams after Jan 11th with a FULL BOB service .. Who is Willy or Cruz trying to dupe in thinking thinking that CC can supply this service .. or are they now just an expensive EZ

sxc

Is this a cultural thing? I understand that Germans generally are quite frugal and if something isn't priced keenly or doesn't provide good value then they are unlikely to buy onboard.

Whereas people from the UK are more accustomed to charter flights and Ryanair and Easyjet and more happy to pay for things onboard?

sammyg901

I remember a Cypriot hotelier years ago telling me they were happy to take a lower rate from a UK tour op vs a German one as we more than made up for it with spending there whereas Germans tended to do their own thing

DoctorCopper

I am unsure whether it was a cultural issue or not. CC did not ask passengers individually if they wished to purchase something (and I doubt there would have been time to do this on a 55 minute flight). Instead CC pushed the trolley asking a general question if anyone wanted to purchase any food & drink. I asked for some water and was advised that I would have to pay. I declined the offer. Doctor Copper

HadesNL

This can also be said about the Dutch who are very price sensitive and have eye to spot inflated pricing. On 2 past transavia HV flights to BCN there were no takers at 7 am. On a trip to hugardha egypt the plane was delayed and departed late making people's stomach's growl for dinner. The few hot options were sold out halfway the cabin leaving my husband to quel his hunger with just overpriced salted nuts. After the same flight also had a delayed unexpected transit stop in sharm el sheik everything was sold out for the return flight as catering was loaded b2b with out replenshiments. I felt sorry for the poor sods who were going to fly home discouvering no bob available.

hcuk94

Looks like the preparation of their supply chain for BoB is underway.

Noticed on my domestic flight last night that the gin on offer is Bombay Sapphire, which is the gin of choice on the M&S menu.

A temporary genuine enhancement

miamiflyer8

Could we see free stuff off the menu in Y for BAEC Gold and/or OWE?

FlyerTalker6245

Absolutely no chance.

percysmith

This causes a lot of problems in practice http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post20360468

orbitmic

I honestly think that's a false problem and would be, for BA, a false excuse: AA have done it for years, SK have done it for years, BD used to do it and now AY does, SN has done it for years on another criterion. I've been on hundreds of flights where within the same cabin, some people have received free items from the BoB menu because of their status, fare, or itinerary. I've never experienced a problem of that type and at any rate in Europe, I never read about one on FT. In fact I have read many many more complaints about priority boarding by people who think they have queued for longer and we don't stop priority boarding as a result.

Bottom line is that BA won't give freebies to status passengers not because this would be an issue but because their policy on monetisation and ancillaries as evidenced by both seat selection and checked luggage on HBO fares is that the only difference between status passengers and status less passengers for BA is that whilst they/we are all milk cows, status cows are fatter cows from which more milk is effectively expected and will thus hopefully be collected (including offensive idiocies on how they should expense the milk to their employer anyway).

wmaciej

Interesting read, but on the other hand AA manage to give away premium drinks and snacks to OW EMD without any problems. Basically when they get to your row they ask if you want any complimentary items as you are EMD.

sxc

Yes CX's problem is that the FAs don't just say to those who additionally request water "Sorry, we only offer this to our top status passengers".

headingwest

I don't think the BA crew would have any problem saying that!

pebadian

As a German in London I'd say yes that's true. I'm still surprised how easy the brits get out their Cards and buy (expensive) things on board. I think that also the 'self catering', 'individualism' and 'best-value-for-money-behaviour' of Germans is mostly true. (Probably thanks to half a century of Aldi & Lidl)

But of course I'm biased and I'm like that too. Almost never buy on board, rather buying a cheap-ish Boots water bottle at the airport. Won't have a massive effect for BA though. I guess the short routes like Germany won't be BOB Cash-Cows anyway. More likely Brit's on the way to the sun