Oct 13, 2016, 9:18 am
Last edit by: orbitmic
BAEC text is now confirming that after the forthcoming changes, TP and Avios for flights marketed as "domestic first" on two class aircrafts (ie everything except transcontinental flagship on all JFK-LAX vv, all JFK-SFO vv, and the MIA-LAX flights operated by a 77W) will accrue on a business class basis, ie 40TPs or 140TPs on flights over 2000mi and corresponding avios.
Seems it has been confirmed! Details in this post #254
(This is a thread that is really crying out for a wiki. Edit to your heart's content!)
Seems it has been confirmed! Details in this post #254
(This is a thread that is really crying out for a wiki. Edit to your heart's content!)
Bad news for TP runs using AA [domestic F sells as J. Reduced TPs - confirmed]
Nov 2, 2016, 7:35 am
#361
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That is fair and I accept that, but in these rapidly changing times I think we all owe it to ourselves to look up from the proverbial "status earning treadmill" and ensure that we are getting value for our spend. I think some folks are doing that (I certainly am) but others seem to be just maniacally obsessed with obtaining status, irregardless of value
If BAEC were to make the kind of fundamental restyle that we have seen from AA that will test the resolve of even the most committed status chaser.
Nov 2, 2016, 10:22 am
#362
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I'm sorry to re-post this question, but I've read the first and last 10 pages of this topic and still need some clarification:
If I book (on aa.com) an AA flight today for travel in December, on a 2-class aircraft, for under 2000 miles, in A (first) class, will I receive 60 or 40 TP's?
Another way to ask this is: Will 2-class flights in First with travel dates before January be re-coded into a business class coding on 12 Nov or will they leave flights alone that are already booked?
Thanks!
If I book (on aa.com) an AA flight today for travel in December, on a 2-class aircraft, for under 2000 miles, in A (first) class, will I receive 60 or 40 TP's?
Another way to ask this is: Will 2-class flights in First with travel dates before January be re-coded into a business class coding on 12 Nov or will they leave flights alone that are already booked?
Thanks!
Nov 2, 2016, 10:40 am
#363
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I'm sorry to re-post this question, but I've read the first and last 10 pages of this topic and still need some clarification:
If I book (on aa.com) an AA flight today for travel in December, on a 2-class aircraft, for under 2000 miles, in A (first) class, will I receive 60 or 40 TP's?
Another way to ask this is: Will 2-class flights in First with travel dates before January be re-coded into a business class coding on 12 Nov or will they leave flights alone that are already booked?
Thanks!
If I book (on aa.com) an AA flight today for travel in December, on a 2-class aircraft, for under 2000 miles, in A (first) class, will I receive 60 or 40 TP's?
Another way to ask this is: Will 2-class flights in First with travel dates before January be re-coded into a business class coding on 12 Nov or will they leave flights alone that are already booked?
Thanks!
Nov 2, 2016, 11:48 am
#364
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Check the Wiki on the AA thread for this, they have a screenshot of the memo:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...te-2016-a.html
Originally Posted by JonNYC
To occur 12 Nov 2016, simultaneously with the next schedule change, tickets for travel 11 Jan 2017 and later will be reissued to show the new coding (JonNYC). (The seating and service will remain as it is now; only coding will be changed to allow future coding for AA's new Premium Economy class.)
The current "F" cabin on two class US50 will be changed to "C"
F will be recoded to J
A will be recoded to D
P will be recoded to I
R will be used, purpose unknown at this time
The current "F" cabin on two class US50 will be changed to "C"
F will be recoded to J
A will be recoded to D
P will be recoded to I
R will be used, purpose unknown at this time
Nov 2, 2016, 2:21 pm
#365
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However, with USA-based airlines catching up to European/Asian airlines at making discounted fares accruing at rock-bottom rates, that has largely bit the dust.
That is fair and I accept that, but in these rapidly changing times I think we all owe it to ourselves to look up from the proverbial "status earning treadmill" and ensure that we are getting value for our spend. I think some folks are doing that (I certainly am) but others seem to be just maniacally obsessed with obtaining status, irregardless of value
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Nov 2, 2016 at 2:30 pm
Nov 3, 2016, 2:46 am
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I'm not sure if this has been picked up already, but on the AA earning table there is now a note:
So looks like there won't be any special earning for these flights branded as First Class. And who knows what will happen if the tickets were initially issued in F/P/A class (probably nothing).
AA operated flights flown with two-cabin aircraft within the United States (including Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands) may be branded as First Class, but will earn miles based on Business Class (J,D,I,R) booking codes.
Nov 3, 2016, 5:23 am
#367
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I'm not sure if this has been picked up already, but on the AA earning table there is now a note:
So looks like there won't be any special earning for these flights branded as First Class. And who knows what will happen if the tickets were initially issued in F/P/A class (probably nothing).
So looks like there won't be any special earning for these flights branded as First Class. And who knows what will happen if the tickets were initially issued in F/P/A class (probably nothing).
Nov 3, 2016, 5:58 am
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Nov 3, 2016, 7:11 am
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Has there been any suggestion anywhere, though, that the first class redemption booking code for 2-class US domestic services would change to U? If not, this would mean that redemption would still be at first level despite earnings being downgraded to business level.
Nov 3, 2016, 7:46 am
#373
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So I'm assuming that (for now, at least) using the term 'branded First Class' would mean that existing tickets in F/P/A codes still earn at 150%; and only the new J/D/I/R 'First Class' fares earn at 125%?
Nov 3, 2016, 7:54 am
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If you are traveling before the switch next year, yes. If you are traveling after the switch, then the booking code will change in the next couple of weeks.