CX The Pier F - the new CCR?
Jan 20, 2016, 1:46 am
#61
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People who prefer GF to Pier F should be subject to a breathalyser to ensure they're sober enough to opine IMO 
Cabanas vs. the day room set up with CX - no contest (though not sure if CX have fixed the aircon yet)
Showers - CCR and GF are woeful in comparison
Service - CX win again
Dining - CX win
Business centre - prefer CX, but not as much in it
Power socket availability - CX again (nicely concealed in the tables)
Location - CCR wins! Like having CCR in T5B given distance from main security
Booze - not qualified to comment
Seating - I get ukgooner's point, but any visit I've had to Pier F it has seemed so tranquil compared to GF (CCR less of a difference)
Cabanas vs. the day room set up with CX - no contest (though not sure if CX have fixed the aircon yet)
Showers - CCR and GF are woeful in comparison
Service - CX win again
Dining - CX win
Business centre - prefer CX, but not as much in it
Power socket availability - CX again (nicely concealed in the tables)
Location - CCR wins! Like having CCR in T5B given distance from main security
Booze - not qualified to comment
Seating - I get ukgooner's point, but any visit I've had to Pier F it has seemed so tranquil compared to GF (CCR less of a difference)
Showers/cabanas - don't use
Service - quite like getting my own
Dining - usually only want a snack
Power - well charged but assume power is ok in both
Seating - maintain better and more space in GF
My main point was that in terms of food and drink options, I preferred GF, and along with somewhere nice to sit, in a nice ambiance - well that's 90% of the points. Even if I wanted a shower, I'm not sure I'd give it so much weight everything else suddenly became secondary - but granted the CX bathrooms and cabanas are very stylish.
So no, the idea that only the CCR is compatible is laughable.
Jan 20, 2016, 1:51 am
#62
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The CCR location is great as it takes you away from the throngs of passengers/shoppers in the terminal, but if you are in F you're almost guaranteed to have to trek over to T5B or C to get anywhere. HKG doesn't have such a problem as it is a much better designed/run airport, especially with an e-channel card. People must remember The Pier is intended as a T5B type secondary lounge for the far away flights.
Personally I like the CCR seating area and bar, but the rest of the CCR facilities and other lounges at LHR are woeful. The last two times I've been in there (T5 and T3) I've walked straight out and gone elsewhere.
Personally I like the CCR seating area and bar, but the rest of the CCR facilities and other lounges at LHR are woeful. The last two times I've been in there (T5 and T3) I've walked straight out and gone elsewhere.
Jan 20, 2016, 2:05 am
#63
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re views / discussion on the Pier, thought I'd 'plug' these two:
discussion on all HKG lounges and picture reviews from me: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...hong-kong.html
Review and pics of the Pier as part of my TR: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...ng-kong-5.html
discussion on all HKG lounges and picture reviews from me: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...hong-kong.html
Review and pics of the Pier as part of my TR: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...ng-kong-5.html
Jan 20, 2016, 3:17 am
#64
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,797
Honestly I don't go through T5 much anymore, but i have had 2 visits over Christmas. Last time i went in:
CCR - shower/bathroom area looks like a council facility. Dirty plates left all over the balcony and no staff in sight. I stayed by the bar for a while and fancied some self serve so headed to GF.
GF - Most of the food was gone and looked like it been out for quite some time anyway More dirty plates everywhere and staff just standing chatting to each other. As it was absolutely heaving I perched on a small bench by the food area for a few minutes before giving up and leaving.
GC North - from what i could see the only real food available was a bacon roll and some bread. Again, plates everywhere and not a seat or working staff member in sight. I thought about sitting in the computer area but didn't want to interrupt someone's full volume Skype conversation.
On the other hand, I rate the Arrivals lounge highly.
CCR - shower/bathroom area looks like a council facility. Dirty plates left all over the balcony and no staff in sight. I stayed by the bar for a while and fancied some self serve so headed to GF.
GF - Most of the food was gone and looked like it been out for quite some time anyway More dirty plates everywhere and staff just standing chatting to each other. As it was absolutely heaving I perched on a small bench by the food area for a few minutes before giving up and leaving.
GC North - from what i could see the only real food available was a bacon roll and some bread. Again, plates everywhere and not a seat or working staff member in sight. I thought about sitting in the computer area but didn't want to interrupt someone's full volume Skype conversation.
On the other hand, I rate the Arrivals lounge highly.
Jan 20, 2016, 3:45 am
#65
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Interesting. You've picked features I don't care about:-
Showers/cabanas - don't use
Service - quite like getting my own
Dining - usually only want a snack
Power - well charged but assume power is ok in both
Seating - maintain better and more space in GF
My main point was that in terms of food and drink options, I preferred GF, and along with somewhere nice to sit, in a nice ambiance - well that's 90% of the points. Even if I wanted a shower, I'm not sure I'd give it so much weight everything else suddenly became secondary - but granted the CX bathrooms and cabanas are very stylish.
So no, the idea that only the CCR is compatible is laughable.
Showers/cabanas - don't use
Service - quite like getting my own
Dining - usually only want a snack
Power - well charged but assume power is ok in both
Seating - maintain better and more space in GF
My main point was that in terms of food and drink options, I preferred GF, and along with somewhere nice to sit, in a nice ambiance - well that's 90% of the points. Even if I wanted a shower, I'm not sure I'd give it so much weight everything else suddenly became secondary - but granted the CX bathrooms and cabanas are very stylish.
So no, the idea that only the CCR is compatible is laughable.
Jan 20, 2016, 3:51 am
#66
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To put things in perspective, BA is entirely average these days across the board, which is my biggest bugbear. I wish they would try to compete with the likes of CX on hard and soft product, but WW has made his bed it seems and wishes to continue with last gen CW seats for example. Lounge quality is acceptable, not as good CX, but a hell of a lot better than AA for example. That's it in a nut shell for me.
Jan 20, 2016, 4:37 am
#67
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Location: OSL
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Interesting. You've picked features I don't care about:-
Showers/cabanas - don't use
Service - quite like getting my own
Dining - usually only want a snack
Power - well charged but assume power is ok in both
Seating - maintain better and more space in GF
My main point was that in terms of food and drink options, I preferred GF, and along with somewhere nice to sit, in a nice ambiance - well that's 90% of the points. Even if I wanted a shower, I'm not sure I'd give it so much weight everything else suddenly became secondary - but granted the CX bathrooms and cabanas are very stylish.
So no, the idea that only the CCR is compatible is laughable.
Showers/cabanas - don't use
Service - quite like getting my own
Dining - usually only want a snack
Power - well charged but assume power is ok in both
Seating - maintain better and more space in GF
My main point was that in terms of food and drink options, I preferred GF, and along with somewhere nice to sit, in a nice ambiance - well that's 90% of the points. Even if I wanted a shower, I'm not sure I'd give it so much weight everything else suddenly became secondary - but granted the CX bathrooms and cabanas are very stylish.
So no, the idea that only the CCR is compatible is laughable.
And most importantly, well-designed bathrooms that are kept incredibly clean.
Jan 20, 2016, 6:48 am
#69
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Well, I'm going to be trying out the HKG lounges and both CCRs next month.
From what I've seen and experienced, I did like having a bath in The Wing.
Food much the same although can't beat black pudding etc for breakfast at LHR. Good selection of foods in the HKG lounges to pick from and I found it easy enough to visit all the lounges as they all offer something different.
From what I've seen and experienced, I did like having a bath in The Wing.
Food much the same although can't beat black pudding etc for breakfast at LHR. Good selection of foods in the HKG lounges to pick from and I found it easy enough to visit all the lounges as they all offer something different.
Jan 20, 2016, 7:32 am
#70
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Jan 20, 2016, 7:35 am
#71
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I am not saying this applies to ukgooner but we seem to have quite a few Walter Mitty armchair flyers on FT who post about things that they have no experience of be that lounges they have visited in their imagination or planes they took an imaginary flight on etc etc. We even have a poster in a certain South American country who seems to have no experience of any flying/lounges/planes etc who is a regular poster here.
FT is a great source of information where travellers can share real life experiences with other travellers and hopefully we all learn something. I know that I have certainly learned a lot from FT. Unfortunately, one has to learn to sift the wheat from the chaff in this process.
FT is a great source of information where travellers can share real life experiences with other travellers and hopefully we all learn something. I know that I have certainly learned a lot from FT. Unfortunately, one has to learn to sift the wheat from the chaff in this process.
Jan 20, 2016, 7:56 am
#72
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I've been in many different class of lounges over the years and yes, some have been better than others. That's to be expected as they serve completely different markets.
None of the lounges I've been could be called a 'dump' and only the one could ever be described as being 'woeful' and to be fair to AZ that lounge was only a temporary setup.
Any 'frequent flier' who has travelled a bit would almost certainly recognise that the T5 lounges are far from being woeful and none of them could be classed as a 'dump'. Which leads me to think some of those who frequent this forum under the guise of being frequent fliers are almost certainly not very well travelled.
Jan 20, 2016, 8:04 am
#73
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Here we go again....so I've to keep quiet because I have no airline status and you have?
I've been in many different class of lounges over the years and yes, some have been better than others. That's to be expected as they serve completely different markets.
None of the lounges I've been could be called a 'dump' and only the one could ever be described as being 'woeful' and to be fair to AZ that lounge was only a temporary setup.
Any 'frequent flier' who has travelled a bit would almost certainly recognise that the T5 lounges are far from being woeful and none of them could be classed as a 'dump'. Which leads me to think some of those who frequent this forum under the guise of being frequent fliers are almost certainly not very well travelled.
I've been in many different class of lounges over the years and yes, some have been better than others. That's to be expected as they serve completely different markets.
None of the lounges I've been could be called a 'dump' and only the one could ever be described as being 'woeful' and to be fair to AZ that lounge was only a temporary setup.
Any 'frequent flier' who has travelled a bit would almost certainly recognise that the T5 lounges are far from being woeful and none of them could be classed as a 'dump'. Which leads me to think some of those who frequent this forum under the guise of being frequent fliers are almost certainly not very well travelled.
As I said upthread, the last couple of times I have been in BA's lounges I have left after a few minutes and gone to a cafe instead. T5 Galleries First was one of those, and for a supposed top end lounge that is woeful.
Jan 20, 2016, 8:11 am
#74
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No, but why comment on a thread about The Pier and The CCR if you have been in neither?
As I said upthread, the last couple of times I have been in BA's lounges I have left after a few minutes and gone to a cafe instead. T5 Galleries First was one of those, and for a supposed top end lounge that is woeful.
As I said upthread, the last couple of times I have been in BA's lounges I have left after a few minutes and gone to a cafe instead. T5 Galleries First was one of those, and for a supposed top end lounge that is woeful.
Jan 20, 2016, 8:14 am
#75
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No, but why comment on a thread about The Pier and The CCR if you have been in neither?
As I said upthread, the last couple of times I have been in BA's lounges I have left after a few minutes and gone to a cafe instead. T5 Galleries First was one of those, and for a supposed top end lounge that is woeful.
As I said upthread, the last couple of times I have been in BA's lounges I have left after a few minutes and gone to a cafe instead. T5 Galleries First was one of those, and for a supposed top end lounge that is woeful.