CX The Pier F - the new CCR?
#46
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I would echo most of the overwhelmingly positive posts about this lounge - it certainly puts the CCR firmly into place on 95% of its setup - tastefully decorated, power points, spa, dining room, food, service etc...
However the one thing I feel is poor (compared to CCR) is the alcohol selection - top champagne is Veuve Cliquot or Moet rose ; no malt whiskys at all! Best blend is Johnnie Walker Black; best gin is Gordon's or Beefeaters; best vodka is Stolichnaya - compare these to the CCR offerings and they are well below what I would expect from a F class serving
However the one thing I feel is poor (compared to CCR) is the alcohol selection - top champagne is Veuve Cliquot or Moet rose ; no malt whiskys at all! Best blend is Johnnie Walker Black; best gin is Gordon's or Beefeaters; best vodka is Stolichnaya - compare these to the CCR offerings and they are well below what I would expect from a F class serving
#47
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scottsdale
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The new Pier F lounge at HKG has much better food than the CCR – hands down. If you're arriving from the U.S in the morning and have already enjoyed CX food and wine in F, then breakfast and lunch in the Pier are absolute perfection.
I agree that the quality of Champagne, wine and spirits in the CCR is superior, but everything else is better in HKG.
#48
Join Date: Oct 2009
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In my opinion, The Pier makes LHR CCR look like dump.
#49
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: HKG
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+1
The Pier F has exceptionally high quality furnishings. Chairs have hardwood legs, brass finishing, etc. that smack of money having been invested in top quality furniture that will easily last seven years plus. I wouldn't be disappointed to see any of the furnishings in the pier at a four seasons. If I saw anything from the CCR in a FS I might be forgiven for thinking I'd stumbled into the run down Hilton next door.
The Pier F has exceptionally high quality furnishings. Chairs have hardwood legs, brass finishing, etc. that smack of money having been invested in top quality furniture that will easily last seven years plus. I wouldn't be disappointed to see any of the furnishings in the pier at a four seasons. If I saw anything from the CCR in a FS I might be forgiven for thinking I'd stumbled into the run down Hilton next door.
Also... The Peninsula run the catering for CX F lounges, not Sodexo, Aramark or whichever cheap, bargain basement prison/hospital food conglomerate serve up food in the CCR.
#50
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Hmmm, I think that's quite unfair. Food in the CCR has improved a lot of the past year and is actually very nice these days. Yes, there is always room for improvement, but I have few complaints.
#51
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Surely a more accurate comparison should be with GF, given OWE can get into the pier on a cheap economy ticket. That puts everything in perspective when comparing.
#52
Join Date: Aug 2014
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As usual on these types of comparison, personal expectations/requirements figure large.
1. We get the alcohol obsessed who look at the quality and quantity of alcohol served e.g. which serves the best champagne/malt whiskey etc etc and how much can they drink before boarding the plane.
2. We get the foodies who want a 4 star restaurant quality meal with quality wines.
3. We get the ambiance crowd who look at the quality/comfort of the surroundings as they wish to relax/chill before the flight. They might like a meal and or drink as well but are neither foodies or alcohol obsessed.
The CCR tends to get high marks from group 1 above - I guess after they have drunk enough alcohol they do not notice the distinctly average food nor the dilapidated furnishings etc.
I am probably in group 2 and 3 and on this basis the CCR is average at best and lounges like the Pier in HKG, the QF First Lounge in Sydney, the Private Room in Singapore are better for my expectations/requirements.
1. We get the alcohol obsessed who look at the quality and quantity of alcohol served e.g. which serves the best champagne/malt whiskey etc etc and how much can they drink before boarding the plane.
2. We get the foodies who want a 4 star restaurant quality meal with quality wines.
3. We get the ambiance crowd who look at the quality/comfort of the surroundings as they wish to relax/chill before the flight. They might like a meal and or drink as well but are neither foodies or alcohol obsessed.
The CCR tends to get high marks from group 1 above - I guess after they have drunk enough alcohol they do not notice the distinctly average food nor the dilapidated furnishings etc.
I am probably in group 2 and 3 and on this basis the CCR is average at best and lounges like the Pier in HKG, the QF First Lounge in Sydney, the Private Room in Singapore are better for my expectations/requirements.
#53
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I'm in the BA F lounge just now in T5, and I haven't been to The Pier yet, only The Wing. But CX lounges just don't have the breadth or depth of drinks, and I'd also say the main seating area of Pier f is also rather underwhelming. GF has a lot of different places to go.
Pier F dining area is better than GF, but the food choices today at GF are better than I've had at Pier. (Salmon parcels very good).
Pier cocktail service is not something you can have in GF. The shower rooms at Pier are excellent.
Right now there's plenty of space at GF the wine bar is getting a lot of attention from staff, the table clearing less so.
In the round, both are good places to wait for a flight, but I actually prefer GF: I've enjoyed the food, and yes, I've enjoyed small taters of 3 very nice wines.
So I know this is OT given this was about Wing v CCR, but for those who said GF is the comparison, I'm very happy here.
#54
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The stuff in the CCR would last the best part of a decade too if the CX maintenance dept went over it with a fine tooth comb every few days repairing and cleaning every nick, scratch, scuff, mark or stain.
Also... The Peninsula run the catering for CX F lounges, not Sodexo, Aramark or whichever cheap, bargain basement prison/hospital food conglomerate serve up food in the CCR.
Also... The Peninsula run the catering for CX F lounges, not Sodexo, Aramark or whichever cheap, bargain basement prison/hospital food conglomerate serve up food in the CCR.
#55
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People who prefer GF to Pier F should be subject to a breathalyser to ensure they're sober enough to opine IMO
Cabanas vs. the day room set up with CX - no contest (though not sure if CX have fixed the aircon yet)
Showers - CCR and GF are woeful in comparison
Service - CX win again
Dining - CX win
Business centre - prefer CX, but not as much in it
Power socket availability - CX again (nicely concealed in the tables)
Location - CCR wins! Like having CCR in T5B given distance from main security
Booze - not qualified to comment
Seating - I get ukgooner's point, but any visit I've had to Pier F it has seemed so tranquil compared to GF (CCR less of a difference)
Cabanas vs. the day room set up with CX - no contest (though not sure if CX have fixed the aircon yet)
Showers - CCR and GF are woeful in comparison
Service - CX win again
Dining - CX win
Business centre - prefer CX, but not as much in it
Power socket availability - CX again (nicely concealed in the tables)
Location - CCR wins! Like having CCR in T5B given distance from main security
Booze - not qualified to comment
Seating - I get ukgooner's point, but any visit I've had to Pier F it has seemed so tranquil compared to GF (CCR less of a difference)
#56
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- BA which has only one F lounge (CCR) which is in the only concourse which typically as either 0 or 1 long haul flights departing. -- If you leave from T5B or T5C you need to leave some long minutes before your flight departure time to make it, if you leave from terminal 3 you get no F lounge at all.
- CX which has two major F lounges (Wing and Pier) strategically located around both ends of the terminal so that in practice, you can use a proper F lounge on all your CX flights, and have one close to you regardless of the gate that your specific flight uses. Sure, Pier is better than Wing on most fronts (cabanas excepted, I still love them) but Wing beats using T3 GF or T5B GC any day.
I agree with others that CCR has generally better alcohol selection than the Pier, but it is not quite fabulous either. LGPS is better than the Veuve Clicquot that the Pier serves as their main Champagne but it is weaker than what QR, AF, and a few others serve in their First Class lounges. Spirits are ok (I find JW Blue totally pointless personally) but again not great either, and many other First class lounges do better than that. Some of the CCR cocktails are very nice though. CX Pier beats CCR hands down on non-alcoholic drinks including better juices, better water, better non-alcoholic cocktails etc.
#57
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Well, even that is questionable. What you really have is:
- BA which has only one F lounge (CCR) which is in the only concourse which typically as either 0 or 1 long haul flights departing. -- If you leave from T5B or T5C you need to leave some long minutes before your flight departure time to make it, if you leave from terminal 3 you get no F lounge at all.
- CX which has two major F lounges (Wing and Pier) strategically located around both ends of the terminal so that in practice, you can use a proper F lounge on all your CX flights, and have one close to you regardless of the gate that your specific flight uses. Sure, Pier is better than Wing on most fronts (cabanas excepted, I still love them) but Wing beats using T3 GF or T5B GC any day.
I agree with others that CCR has generally better alcohol selection than the Pier, but it is not quite fabulous either. LGPS is better than the Veuve Clicquot that the Pier serves as their main Champagne but it is weaker than what QR, AF, and a few others serve in their First Class lounges. Spirits are ok (I find JW Blue totally pointless personally) but again not great either, and many other First class lounges do better than that. Some of the CCR cocktails are very nice though. CX Pier beats CCR hands down on non-alcoholic drinks including better juices, better water, better non-alcoholic cocktails etc.
- BA which has only one F lounge (CCR) which is in the only concourse which typically as either 0 or 1 long haul flights departing. -- If you leave from T5B or T5C you need to leave some long minutes before your flight departure time to make it, if you leave from terminal 3 you get no F lounge at all.
- CX which has two major F lounges (Wing and Pier) strategically located around both ends of the terminal so that in practice, you can use a proper F lounge on all your CX flights, and have one close to you regardless of the gate that your specific flight uses. Sure, Pier is better than Wing on most fronts (cabanas excepted, I still love them) but Wing beats using T3 GF or T5B GC any day.
I agree with others that CCR has generally better alcohol selection than the Pier, but it is not quite fabulous either. LGPS is better than the Veuve Clicquot that the Pier serves as their main Champagne but it is weaker than what QR, AF, and a few others serve in their First Class lounges. Spirits are ok (I find JW Blue totally pointless personally) but again not great either, and many other First class lounges do better than that. Some of the CCR cocktails are very nice though. CX Pier beats CCR hands down on non-alcoholic drinks including better juices, better water, better non-alcoholic cocktails etc.
#59
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Yes. You will access to all Oneworld first lounges at HKG. Cathay have The Pier and The Wing. Qantas is a combined first and business but still very good. You will also have access to all Cathay Business class lounges if you are inclined to lounge hop!
#60
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Personally I like the CCR seating area and bar, but the rest of the CCR facilities and other lounges at LHR are woeful. The last two times I've been in there (T5 and T3) I've walked straight out and gone elsewhere.