New rates are now in force [thread for discussions about the changes]
Apr 28, 2015, 2:46 am
#31
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I pointed this out before - unless it's a codeshare, how can BAEC know when you booked a flight with a partner?
Apr 28, 2015, 2:54 am
#33
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I just checked and it is trying to charge me. You might just be lucky or sth like that. Try going to payment page and see whether it still only wants 10k.
Apr 28, 2015, 3:25 am
#34
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I checked for a flight from NCL-MAN (via LHR - don't ask!) - its charging 8000 avios (off - peak) and 35 GBP - double everything.
Apr 28, 2015, 3:26 am
#35
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So- if I've booked US Airways flights before the deadline- I will regardless receive the Avios and TPs at the post-devaluation rates? I personally was given assurances over the phone that this would not be the case- twice.
Apr 28, 2015, 3:33 am
#36
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Well, in a sense, Max is right: if you have a set number of loaves of bread to sell and you sell them at £1.00, they will go at a set rate and there may not be any left for someone to have the opportunity to buy when you they get round to the shop. If, however, you raise the price of the loaf to £100, then fewer will sell and more will remain on the shelves giving many more people the "opportunity" to buy a loaf. Whether it would be a sensible use of their cash to do so and whether anybody (apart from the baker) would welcome such a price rise, however, is a different question... 
Apr 28, 2015, 3:41 am
#37
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I get the feeling there are so many Avios sloshing round the system that even at the enhanced redemption rates, 'desirable' premium redemptions will be thin on the ground.
Apr 28, 2015, 3:48 am
#38
Join Date: Dec 2013
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WT+ --> CW Upgrade
Its the WT+ --> CW upgrade that has really changed in many places.
For London to New York it used to be 20k avios for the return to upgrade to CW. This morning it is 48k off-peak. That is a massive 240% increase!
I was secretly hoping that there would be a new formula for calculating upgrades. It doesn't seem logical that during an off-peak period it would cost more avios to upgrade than during a peak period.
Perhaps the rationale is that off-peak WT+ will cost less than during peak period, so BA want more avios for the upgrade?
For London to New York it used to be 20k avios for the return to upgrade to CW. This morning it is 48k off-peak. That is a massive 240% increase!
I was secretly hoping that there would be a new formula for calculating upgrades. It doesn't seem logical that during an off-peak period it would cost more avios to upgrade than during a peak period.
Perhaps the rationale is that off-peak WT+ will cost less than during peak period, so BA want more avios for the upgrade?
Apr 28, 2015, 3:58 am
#39
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Apr 28, 2015, 3:59 am
#40
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I think that's exactly the reasoning: BA either want you to pay for a more expensive ticket (at peak), or a cheaper ticket (off peak) but have to 'spend' more Avios to upgrade.
Apr 28, 2015, 4:02 am
#41
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Its the WT+ --> CW upgrade that has really changed in many places.
For London to New York it used to be 20k avios for the return to upgrade to CW. This morning it is 48k off-peak. That is a massive 240% increase!
I was secretly hoping that there would be a new formula for calculating upgrades. It doesn't seem logical that during an off-peak period it would cost more avios to upgrade than during a peak period.
Perhaps the rationale is that off-peak WT+ will cost less than during peak period, so BA want more avios for the upgrade?
For London to New York it used to be 20k avios for the return to upgrade to CW. This morning it is 48k off-peak. That is a massive 240% increase!
I was secretly hoping that there would be a new formula for calculating upgrades. It doesn't seem logical that during an off-peak period it would cost more avios to upgrade than during a peak period.
Perhaps the rationale is that off-peak WT+ will cost less than during peak period, so BA want more avios for the upgrade?
[a] force you to pay cash
[b] reduce the Avios out there quicker
[c] know you'll pay it regardless as there's no other option / you're not going to pay £2k for a CW seat but have enough Avios to MFU etc
[d] people expect cheaper fare during off peak periods so why not target these people to wrangle more out of them?
Apr 28, 2015, 4:07 am
#42
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Apr 28, 2015, 4:18 am
#43
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Change to pre 28 LH booking?
Sorry, I know this has been covered but I can't find it and I'm in a rush (break at work)!
Myself and Mrs AQ have a F booking LHR-PVG in Aug (now peak) but availability has come up for our preferred LHR-NRT on the same day. Can you tell me what I should now expect to pay, £35 change obviously but anymore Avios?
Also, I could cancel our PVG-NRT connection with JAL on Avios.
Thanks
AQ
Myself and Mrs AQ have a F booking LHR-PVG in Aug (now peak) but availability has come up for our preferred LHR-NRT on the same day. Can you tell me what I should now expect to pay, £35 change obviously but anymore Avios?
Also, I could cancel our PVG-NRT connection with JAL on Avios.
Thanks
AQ
Apr 28, 2015, 4:21 am
#44
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I wonder if VS will pick up some business as a result of this.
Check out their redemption table and weep
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...d-flights.html
If they fly where you want to go then you certainly have a choice to make unless of course you feel that VS will follow BA's changes in the near future
Check out their redemption table and weep
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...d-flights.html
If they fly where you want to go then you certainly have a choice to make unless of course you feel that VS will follow BA's changes in the near future
Apr 28, 2015, 4:23 am
#45
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I wonder if VS will pick up some business as a result of this.
Check out their redemption table and weep
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...d-flights.html
If they fly where you want to go then you certainly have a choice to make unless of course you feel that VS will follow BA's changes in the near future
Check out their redemption table and weep
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...d-flights.html
If they fly where you want to go then you certainly have a choice to make unless of course you feel that VS will follow BA's changes in the near future