BA Cockpit Safety regulations
Mar 26, 2015, 10:49 am
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I'm sure we're all aware of the procedures at say AA where a Cabin Crew Member enters the flight deck when a pilot leaves. Surely this is better than this not happening at all?! Give them a little bit of training on opening the door, it looks very simple, I'm sure I could do it now after watching the video.
If the argument is then well, the CCM could be overpowered...yes true. And then equally maybe a pilot can bring a machete onboard, a machine gun or a bomb, but all those things are a given. Requiring a CCM to go into the cockpit would be a positive change.
If the argument is then well, the CCM could be overpowered...yes true. And then equally maybe a pilot can bring a machete onboard, a machine gun or a bomb, but all those things are a given. Requiring a CCM to go into the cockpit would be a positive change.
Very interesting phone call to the chief pilot after landing.
Mar 26, 2015, 10:51 am
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Mar 26, 2015, 10:56 am
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Mar 26, 2015, 11:03 am
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The excellent safety record of the aviation industry is partly down to the way lessons are learned from any incident (such as this or much more minor).
I don't feel any less safe because of this tragedy, but if improvements to procedure can be made then they should be considered directly.
The best combination, I would think, is yes CCM replaces flight crew for a loo break and no-one has any guns. CIHY or others; are there good safety reasons for not having a one in, one out of the cockpit rule?
I don't feel any less safe because of this tragedy, but if improvements to procedure can be made then they should be considered directly.
The best combination, I would think, is yes CCM replaces flight crew for a loo break and no-one has any guns. CIHY or others; are there good safety reasons for not having a one in, one out of the cockpit rule?
Mar 26, 2015, 11:13 am
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Mar 26, 2015, 11:17 am
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BBC News has just reported Easyjet will change its procedures from tomorrow insisting two crew are present in the flight deck at all times
Mar 26, 2015, 11:30 am
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Wouldn't it be a good idea that the lock lever in the cockpit should have an override code only known by two people, pilot and co-pilot, and changed before every flight (or shift at a minimum).
Mar 26, 2015, 11:31 am
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Mar 26, 2015, 11:32 am
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If it is changed daily or every flight you run the chance that the code is forgotten... especially as it is not something that you would be using in a normal situation.
Mar 26, 2015, 11:35 am
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the undeniable truth is that in many ways in this life we are all responsible for the safety and security of each other - we are all each other's "neighbour". When we don't live up to that responsibility (and the Germanwings tragedy is but a start example of a common problem across all facets of life) then people get hurt.
Mar 26, 2015, 11:36 am
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Mar 26, 2015, 11:42 am
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Mar 26, 2015, 11:45 am
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There may some aviation-related tragedies that are simply not preventable.
A pilot who is intent on bringing down the plane can always attack the flight attendant while the other pilot is in the loo. There's a handy crash axe that would likely suffice.
Here in the States, if the lone pilot is armed, they can simply shoot the flight attendant. And, obviously, if the pilots are armed, then the homicidal pilot could always just shoot the other while they're both seated on the flight deck.
History has given us all sorts of awful examples of humans failing their fellow humans. Perhaps the best course of action is to attempt to minimize the more likely risks and accept the less-likely risks.
My guess is that there are fewer homicidal pilots than there are homicidal passengers, and thus keeping the homicidal passengers at bay must be the primary goal even if we occasionally experience what happens when a pilot decides to intentionally crash a plane full of passengers.
A pilot who is intent on bringing down the plane can always attack the flight attendant while the other pilot is in the loo. There's a handy crash axe that would likely suffice.
Here in the States, if the lone pilot is armed, they can simply shoot the flight attendant. And, obviously, if the pilots are armed, then the homicidal pilot could always just shoot the other while they're both seated on the flight deck.
History has given us all sorts of awful examples of humans failing their fellow humans. Perhaps the best course of action is to attempt to minimize the more likely risks and accept the less-likely risks.
My guess is that there are fewer homicidal pilots than there are homicidal passengers, and thus keeping the homicidal passengers at bay must be the primary goal even if we occasionally experience what happens when a pilot decides to intentionally crash a plane full of passengers.
Mar 26, 2015, 11:47 am
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Absolutely right that we should not go into specifics (and incidentally though it's great the authorities have put so much so quickly into the public domain, it is still easy to speculate on limited facts). However are you, in very broad general terms, able to suggest that this sequence of events is unlikely to happen on BA?
Mar 26, 2015, 11:57 am
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