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KARFA Jun 24, 2022 9:45 am


Originally Posted by sau54 (Post 34365401)
I was also at AMS last week and I don't remember seeing the CT scanners. I think I read in the news that the CT scanners were slower, but given the chaos at airports these days, I don't pay very close attention. HEL was definitely better than LHR. Since I was flying AY in J, I didn't have to line up to get to the second floor for departure. I just got there and immediately head towards priority security. I also didn't have to take anything out of my bag.

You didn’t have to take anything out of the bag as they are all CT scanners at AMS now.

sau54 Jun 24, 2022 9:45 am


Originally Posted by Radiation Station (Post 34365416)
I suppose it might take more time to look at each bag as it passes through, but I think they save a lot of time because people can just dump their bags and walk through. There’s always a load of people who sleep walk their way to security and then seem surprised when they have to take liquids out etc.

HEL is such a great airport, I’ve really enjoying flying from there a couple of times this month. As you say, priority security is a dream there.

I never travel with liquid and rarely travel with an iPad or laptop. I always travel with a camera and occasionally, my bag has to be manually inspected and the camera bag has to be scanned again. It's not very consistent.

Hopefully, the days of us taking out our shoes, laptops, and liquid will be in the distant memory with these new CT scanners.


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34365426)
You didn’t have to take anything out of the bag as they are all CT scanners at AMS now.

Since I rarely travel with a laptop and never have liquid with me, are you saying that with a CT scanner, I'll never have to take out a laptop again? It didn't crossed my mind to bring a laptop just to test it.

​​​​​​​You're right, I don't remember having to take my camera out of the bag at AMS while I had to do that at LHR! When is LHR getting CT scanners?

Prospero Jun 24, 2022 11:28 am

Can we refocus the discussion on the lounges at LHR Terminal 3 please. There is plenty of room on FT to chat about security scanning but this really isn’t the best thread for that.

Thanks

Prospero
Moderator: BA forum

corporate-wage-slave Jun 24, 2022 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by Radiation Station (Post 34365416)
I suppose it might take more time to look at each bag as it passes through, but I think they save a lot of time because people can just dump their bags and walk through.

Broadly they take more time since the processing time is longer. If you are well organised and can pull out laptop and liquids quickly, since you were prepared in advance, and put them at the top of the bag for rapid removal, the CT scanners are almost always going to be slower since they may well need to do a 3d analysis of the bag/laptop. Competency counts for more than anything in this game, which is why the First Wing at T5 is always going to beat the CT scanner.

IanG84 Jun 25, 2022 9:01 am


Originally Posted by LAX/HKG (Post 25593850)
What about the J lounges? Which one in T3 is the best?

I’d say Cathay Pacific Business lounge, hands down. Did a bit of a tour a couple
of weeks ago on a short BA hop to Pisa.

The BA lounge was horrific in T3. It was rammed and felt like you were just sat in the departure hall.

The Qantas lounge was nice but I couldn’t get my head around what the food offer was.

Headed back to the Cathay Pacific lounge, reached in one of their lovely recliner arm chairs with foot stool and views across the field. Food delicious. Bar offer and service great.

:D! Jun 25, 2022 10:10 am

Will the QF lounge be able to change my FFP from BA (Silver for seat assignment and lounge access) to QF (no status but want to collect points)?

sau54 Jun 25, 2022 10:55 am


Originally Posted by IanG84 (Post 34368171)
I’d say Cathay Pacific Business lounge, hands down. Did a bit of a tour a couple
of weeks ago on a short BA hop to Pisa.

The BA lounge was horrific in T3. It was rammed and felt like you were just sat in the departure hall.

The Qantas lounge was nice but I couldn’t get my head around what the food offer was.

Headed back to the Cathay Pacific lounge, reached in one of their lovely recliner arm chairs with foot stool and views across the field. Food delicious. Bar offer and service great.

QF was definitely the place to go for peace and quiet as there were much fewer people than CX. However, I think CX J have better food. Depending on the time that one goes to the QF lounge, you can have a la carte or the buffet on the second floor.

babyg_wc Jun 28, 2022 4:38 am

Is this constant promotion of the one world T3 lounges (hfp, tlfl, flyertalk etc etc) likely to kill the golden goose, lots more people doing lounge crawls these days compared with just a few years back. Are BA on the hook to pay for entry into every lounge people hop to from?


Originally Posted by EDDLEGLL (Post 34292779)
I highly doubt it’s a big issue at all - the vast majority of travellers have no idea.

Only this morning I told a fellow gold card holder in the office about how excited I was to be finally flying to HEL again, “because it’s T3” and she had no idea. Even after telling her about the “amazing world of CX F and QF” she’s still not convinced and will likely end up in BA GF again on her next trip.

The one thing that might increase awareness is the fact that the BA App no longer shows you which lounge to use, but instead redirects you to the oneworld lounge finder where access rules are prominently displayed.


Originally Posted by SW7London (Post 34294054)
Same experience, very frequent flyers who are BA Gold completely unaware they can use other Oneworld lounges!

Interesting that the BA app now directs you to the Oneworld lounge finder - I would have thought BA would be charged each time one of their passengers enters the CX/QF lounges at T3, and for obvious reasons they would rather those passengers in their own BA lounges as there is no additional cash outlay. Be interesting to see how long the BA App stays this way!

https://www.headforpoints.com/2022/0...in-terminal-5/
"Is British Airways desperately trying to stop its passengers running up huge bills by visiting the superior Cathay Pacific and Qantas lounges in Terminal 3?!"

Perhaps Hfp is just reading too much into this, but with Hfp, TFl and other bloggers (and this thread) promoting the T3 lounge access it could be true...

KARFA Jun 28, 2022 4:46 am

I can only assume that line is said very much tongue in cheek. It is not a realistic reason for a mass terminal move of BA routes with two weeks notice in the middle of the S22 season.

AirbusA350 Jun 28, 2022 5:20 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34376496)
I can only assume that line is said very much tongue in cheek. It is not a realistic reason for a mass terminal move of BA routes with two weeks notice in the middle of the S22 season.

I fully concur with KARFA's interpretation of this, it was very likely a jovial/tongue-in-cheek comment made my Rob at HfP and if indeed airlines were seeing this to be a major issue, I'd expect them to coerce OW to change the rules to disallow this rather than change entire terminals at such short notice. So I'd sincerely remove such thoughts that this is due to some convoluted conspiracy to bar lounge hops!!

RG1X Jun 28, 2022 6:11 am

A dark day for BA flying lounge lovers. :(

kq747 Jun 28, 2022 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by sau54 (Post 34362690)
It happens all the time and I don't think it's fair to blame it on Americans. I was at the VS security screening last week and there was a guy that brought jam. He had an European accent speaking English. I do find it annoying that people are not ready for the security screenings. Whether it's liquid, laptops, or whatever, I don't understand how in this day and age, people aren't ready. Before I even get to the trays, the reps would remind us to take out the laptop and liquid. Yet, people still get to the tray not understanding what has to be done. I even saw a British family of three (spoke with a British accent) that was totally unprepared for the security screening. They were at T3 fast track and just ahead of me. I think they managed to talk themselves to the fast track because they were running late. It was a crazy day at Heathrow and I guess if you say the right things, you can skip the lines. Anyways, I got really frustrated with this family as they had to unpack everything from their bag. I lost patience and ask if I can just jump in front of them since they were taking their time!!! The guy told me to chill and I responded that he should have been ready for the screening as he was holding everyone back. I want to go to the lounge and not want to watch him unpack and repack his bag! I guess there's no love lost between Brits and Americans as he obviously knows where I'm from given my accent!

Honestly as someone based in the States, security here is very casual about liquids as long as nothing is over 100ml individually and I've kept mine in 2 toiletry bags and not the clear bag . Even at non-US airports, it has been years since I've been asked to comply with all liquids in a clear bag as long as they were size compliant. Havent flown through LHR in a decade admittedly so I gather they are still strict about this

jmasgat Jul 1, 2022 3:48 pm

Newbie question (and may I never have to fly BA again with the issues I've been having with my booking). As a result of my latest flight segment cancellation, I am rebooked on a connecting flight out of LHR to MXP--but in coach. I am in Business Class on AA from Bos arriving in T3, and now with a 5 hr layover. I'm being told by AA that I will get the benefits of the highest fare class--meaning I should get lounge access. Anyone have experience that this is the case?n I will want a hot shower, food and a place to sit, and I would at least try to get into the Cathay Lounge at T3 before heading over to T5.

If worse came to worse, we could go Arrivals and then go on to T5--but I'd like to avoid that.

KARFA Jul 2, 2022 2:55 am


Originally Posted by jmasgat (Post 34388312)
Newbie question (and may I never have to fly BA again with the issues I've been having with my booking). As a result of my latest flight segment cancellation, I am rebooked on a connecting flight out of LHR to MXP--but in coach. I am in Business Class on AA from Bos arriving in T3, and now with a 5 hr layover. I'm being told by AA that I will get the benefits of the highest fare class--meaning I should get lounge access. Anyone have experience that this is the case?n I will want a hot shower, food and a place to sit, and I would at least try to get into the Cathay Lounge at T3 before heading over to T5.

If worse came to worse, we could go Arrivals and then go on to T5--but I'd like to avoid that.

so yes you get access to J lounges based on your inbound long haul J bp. Keep hold of it as you’ll need to show it alongside your outbound LHR-MXP bp.

when you arrive in t3 you can head to flight connections T3 and go airside if you want to use the lounges. Make sure you leave plenty of time to get to T5, you need to be getting to security absolutely no later than 35 mins before your scheduled flight time. You can use the BA J lounges in T5 of course on the same basis as above.

eddy67 Jul 2, 2022 5:10 am

To lounge hop in T3 do you need status or is simply holding a Club World/AA Business Class boarding pass sufficient ?

Having hardly flown like many others I am forgetting the basics of lounge rules lol

I have never been through T3 but will be next month. TIA

KARFA Jul 2, 2022 5:17 am


Originally Posted by eddy67 (Post 34389486)
To lounge hop in T3 do you need status or is simply holding a Club World/AA Business Class boarding pass sufficient ?

Having hardly flown like many others I am forgetting the basics of lounge rules lol

I have never been through T3 but will be next month. TIA

if you are in J you can use any J lounge, or all of them in T3. You won’t be allowed to guest tho.

The _Banking_Scot Jul 2, 2022 5:18 am


Originally Posted by eddy67 (Post 34389486)
To lounge hop in T3 do you need status or is simply holding a Club World/AA Business Class boarding pass sufficient ?

Having hardly flown like many others I am forgetting the basics of lounge rules lol

I have never been through T3 but will be next month. TIA

Hi,

I think a Club World/ AA business class ticket will be enough for Qantas and Cathay Business ( if you had BA Gold then Cathay First lounge would be available also)

Regards

TBS

Radiation Station Jul 2, 2022 5:39 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34389293)
so yes you get access to J lounges based on your inbound long haul J bp. Keep hold of it as you’ll need to show it alongside your outbound LHR-MXP bp.

when you arrive in t3 you can head to flight connections T3 and go airside if you want to use the lounges. Make sure you leave plenty of time to get to T5, you need to be getting to security absolutely no later than 35 mins before your scheduled flight time. You can use the BA J lounges in T5 of course on the same basis as above.

I honestly had no idea you could visit the T3 lounges if arriving into T3 and connecting on to T5. I guess I assumed you wouldn’t be able to access the T3 lounges physically or technically. That is very good to know for the future, thanks.

MarioRossi Jul 2, 2022 5:53 am


Originally Posted by Radiation Station (Post 34389542)
I honestly had no idea you could visit the T3 lounges if arriving into T3 and connecting on to T5. I guess I assumed you wouldn’t be able to access the T3 lounges physically or technically. That is very good to know for the future, thanks.

I am also not sure the information is correct. Are you now able to go through security at T3 with a T5 boarding pass? Didn't work in the past and since you need to re-clear security on inbound, I am unsure whether you'd get through.

Maybe someone here can help? Access to T3 with T5 boarding pass?

KARFA Jul 2, 2022 5:55 am


Originally Posted by MarioRossi (Post 34389571)
I am also not sure the information is correct. Are you now able to go through security at T3 with a T5 boarding pass? Didn't work in the past and since you need to re-clear security on inbound, I am unsure whether you'd get through.

Maybe someone here can help? Access to T3 with T5 boarding pass?

Yes if going through connections, no if coming from landside.

MarioRossi Jul 2, 2022 5:59 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34389578)
Yes if going through connections, no if coming from landside.

Thank you for clarifying. So theoretically one could clear security at T5, take the bus to T3, lounge hop there and then go back to T5? Not that it's something I would do with the current situation at security.

KARFA Jul 2, 2022 6:04 am


Originally Posted by MarioRossi (Post 34389591)
Thank you for clarifying. So theoretically one could clear security at T5, take the bus to T3, lounge hop there and then go back to T5? Not that it's something I would do with the current situation at security.

theoretically, but I wouldn’t do it in normal times unless you really know what you are doing and where you are going. Also you will have caused problems with your t5 flight as you will have been marked as ready to fly the first time you went through security, so you will need to have this fixed when you come back to t5.

MarioRossi Jul 2, 2022 6:06 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34389597)
theoretically, but I wouldn’t do it in normal times unless you really know what you are doing and where you are going. Also you will have caused problems with your t5 flight as you will have been marked as ready to fly the first time you went through security, so you will need to have this fixed when you come back to t5.

Yeah I know this issue from long layovers when having breakfast in the lounge and then going for a run along the runways.

But thank you for your information 👍👍

babyg_wc Jul 3, 2022 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34389492)
if you are in J you can use any J lounge, or all of them in T3. You won’t be allowed to guest tho.

Can a BA silver flying BA economy guest into CX/Qantas in T3?

KARFA Jul 3, 2022 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by babyg_wc (Post 34393617)
Can a BA silver flying BA economy guest into CX/Qantas in T3?

yes

babyg_wc Jul 3, 2022 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34393627)
yes

Great, thank you for confirming KARFA

abligh Jul 4, 2022 1:13 am


Originally Posted by MarioRossi (Post 34389603)
Yeah I know this issue from long layovers when having breakfast in the lounge and then going for a run along the runways.

But thank you for your information 👍👍

I really hope you were going for a run along the walkways, not along the runways!

MarioRossi Jul 4, 2022 10:40 am


Originally Posted by abligh (Post 34394404)
I really hope you were going for a run along the walkways, not along the runways!

First the walkways to get out of T5, then along Bath Road ... so kinda along the runway.

flybymonkey Jul 4, 2022 12:00 pm

What champagne do they serve in the Qantas and Cathay business lounge?

markmac Jul 4, 2022 12:07 pm

Qantas does not serve champagne, only sparkling wine.
Cathay serves Laurent Perrier, not LPGS tho.

choosethedrew Jul 4, 2022 1:02 pm


Originally Posted by markmac (Post 34395804)
Qantas does not serve champagne, only sparkling wine.
Cathay serves Laurent Perrier, not LPGS tho.

Qantas serves Croser Sparking wine from the Adelaide Hills, which is rated 4/5 on wine-searcher.com and is on the richer end of sparkling wines and champagnes at 13% ABV. Personally I much prefer a decent sparkling wine to a cheap champagne and thought this was lovely. I understand if you are in QF F Perrier-Jouët comes out from under the table for you.

KARFA Jul 4, 2022 1:55 pm

Well I had it last week and I don’t rate it tbh. Much more prefer the champagne in the CX lounge - or even the champagne in the BA lounge.

happiest_at_40000 Jul 4, 2022 3:44 pm

I will be visiting T3 OW lounges for the first time this week and have 4 questions. I really appreciate any help with this:

1) Any recommendations for the order to hit them? I will be arriving at 6am and departing at 2pm.. From what I can tell above good to hit QF early enough to have sit down service so I was thinking breakfast there and lunch at the CX lounge. Is it worth paying a visit to the BA lounge or no?

2) Which has the best showers?? HOT water is so important to me and I'd love to hear if there are any opinions as to which is the hottest. My only LHR showers have been in the UA arrival lounge and that was hot. Hoping finding hot water in T3 wont be an issue. The FL lounges in the US are a joke for hot water except for LAX.

3) Is the AA arrivals lounge worth visiting or better to just clear security and come back airside? If the arrivals lounge is the go to for the hot water then of course worth a stop. But if not for that, is it worth a visit for the sit down breakfast?

4) Will I be able to access the F part of the CX and BA lounges due to arriving in FF on AA? OW rules would allow this as my onward flight is same day and less than 5 hours so that the long haul is clearly the flight over from the states. My onward flight will be a separate ticket that is LHR-NAP in Business so I know that covers me for the lounges albeit the F part of CX/BA so I am hoping the AA BP gets me in.

Thank in advance for answers to these 4 questions :)

Barnaby100 Jul 4, 2022 3:50 pm

Just had an email that my August 1st AA flight to DFW has bounced to T3 (gold in 1st). Wishing I had gone for longer connection now

PGberkshire Jul 4, 2022 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000 (Post 34396462)
I will be visiting T3 OW lounges for the first time this week and have 4 questions. I really appreciate any help with this:

1) Any recommendations for the order to hit them? I will be arriving at 6am and departing at 2pm.. From what I can tell above good to hit QF early enough to have sit down service so I was thinking breakfast there and lunch at the CX lounge. Is it worth paying a visit to the BA lounge or no?

QF first as they close their downstairs at 12pm, so if you want squid you can go there first then CX.
BA - why?



2) Which has the best showers?? HOT water is so important to me and I'd love to hear if there are any opinions as to which is the hottest. My only LHR showers have been in the UA arrival lounge and that was hot. Hoping finding hot water in T3 wont be an issue. The FL lounges in the US are a joke for hot water except for LAX.

CX has lovely showers

3) Is the AA arrivals lounge worth visiting or better to just clear security and come back airside? If the arrivals lounge is the go to for the hot water then of course worth a stop. But if not for that, is it worth a visit for the sit down breakfast?

Never been, so no opinion. Again, CX showers are lovely.

4) Will I be able to access the F part of the CX and BA lounges due to arriving in FF on AA? OW rules would allow this as my onward flight is same day and less than 5 hours so that the long haul is clearly the flight over from the states. My onward flight will be a separate ticket that is LHR-NAP in Business so I know that covers me for the lounges albeit the F part of CX/BA so I am hoping the AA BP gets me in.



Thank in advance for answers to these 4 questions :)


Answers in line

happiest_at_40000 Jul 4, 2022 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by PGberkshire (Post 34396517)
Answers in line

Thank you for the quick response and helpful info.

I didnt catch an answer to question 4- do you know if I can get into the CX F lounge (or part of the lounge if its not technically a separate lounge) on the arriving OW F boarding pass?

The CX showers do look lovely. You'd consider the water to be Hot ?? One of my fav showers was QR lounge at SIN. They looked really nice like these CX ones also.

Btw I just looked and apparently AA is arriving at T5 now, which makes no sense since it says their Arrivals lounge is at T3 and I believe AA web site isnt showing it as closed. It must be closed since Covid or why would all their flights land at T5. So I guess my 3rd question is irrelevant.

Is it a really bad hike from T5 to T3? Worth visiting BA arrivals at T5 before heading to T3?

Thx

Prospero Jul 4, 2022 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by happiest_at_40000 (Post 34396462)
I4) Will I be able to access the F part of the CX and BA lounges due to arriving in FF on AA? OW rules would allow this as my onward flight is same day and less than 5 hours so that the long haul is clearly the flight over from the states. My onward flight will be a separate ticket that is LHR-NAP in Business so I know that covers me for the lounges albeit the F part of CX/BA so I am hoping the AA BP gets me in.

Thank in advance for answers to these 4 questions :)

Can I check this. You will arrive in T3 early morning and will fly out to AMM on BA from T5 on the late afternoon flight? If so, I think your only option at T3 will be the AA Arrivals Lounge. Happy to be corrected though

happiest_at_40000 Jul 4, 2022 4:53 pm


Originally Posted by Prospero (Post 34396548)
Can I check this. You will arrive in T3 early morning and will fly out to AMM on BA from T5 on the late afternoon flight? If so, I think your only option at T3 will be the AA Arrivals Lounge. Happy to be corrected though

Hi- I made a mistake.. I edited to say Naples. I am going to Cairo via Amman and then onto Dubai but from Naples. So the flight out of LHR is to Naples which does leave from T3 apparently. At least everyday for the last 2 weeks. So I would have access to T3 but you were right that if the onward flight was from T5 then it may have been trouble getting to T3 to use those lounges.

If the AA arriving in F BP does allow access to BA F & CX F is it then worth checking out the BA lounge or its just not worth it at all?

Btw, the AA Arrivals lounge is open? It appears many AA flights are arriving at T5- those folks just use the BA arrivals lounge? Which of the 2 is considered the better one?

choosethedrew Jul 4, 2022 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 34396137)
Well I had it last week and I don’t rate it tbh. Much more prefer the champagne in the CX lounge - or even the champagne in the BA lounge.

Chacun à son goût! I really liked it, very full and less sharp than some champagne.

KARFA Jul 4, 2022 11:15 pm


Originally Posted by choosethedrew (Post 34397275)
Chacun à son goût! I really liked it, very full and less sharp than some champagne.

sharp? we must be having different drinks :)


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