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Welcome to the thread, but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome! If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post and join in.
New to the thread? Welcome! If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
- from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £804, LAX - £1149, HNL - £1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from ARN, IL28SALE - to US, e.g. JFK - £1093, LAX - £1327, HNL - £1479, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, valid travel periods same as above links
- from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £1344, LAX - £1367, HNL - £1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from AMS, IL28SALE - to US, e.g. JFK - £1382, LAX - £1397, HNL - £1532, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, valid travel periods same as above links
- from LCA, IL28SALE - to US, e.g. JFK - £1514, LAX - £1705, HNL - £1958, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, valid travel periods same as above links
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post and join in.
Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America
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Quick sanity check on this BA sale fare with a TP run:
JFK-LAX earns only 140TP because it's 3 class and therefore books into Business and not First? Same with LAX-HNL?
How much better is the Business class on a 3 class plane as opposed to First on a 2 class plane on the JFK-PHX and PHX - HNL routes?
On a TP run with the following, I guess this is the difference:
DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+210+210+210+210+210+40 = 1340 TP
DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+140+140+140+140+210+40 = 1060TP
Is this correct? Sorry for the questions!
JFK-LAX earns only 140TP because it's 3 class and therefore books into Business and not First? Same with LAX-HNL?
How much better is the Business class on a 3 class plane as opposed to First on a 2 class plane on the JFK-PHX and PHX - HNL routes?
On a TP run with the following, I guess this is the difference:
DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+210+210+210+210+210+40 = 1340 TP
DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+140+140+140+140+210+40 = 1060TP
Is this correct? Sorry for the questions!
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You still get 210 TPs each way between lax and HNL as long as you book under the AA flight numbers in a class. It is just between JFK and lax where you only earn 140 TPs.
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Quick sanity check on this BA sale fare with a TP run:
JFK-LAX earns only 140TP because it's 3 class and therefore books into Business and not First? Same with LAX-HNL?
How much better is the Business class on a 3 class plane as opposed to First on a 2 class plane on the JFK-PHX and PHX - HNL routes?
On a TP run with the following, I guess this is the difference:
DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+210+210+210+210+210+40 = 1340 TP
DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+140+140+140+140+210+40 = 1060TP
Is this correct? Sorry for the questions!
JFK-LAX earns only 140TP because it's 3 class and therefore books into Business and not First? Same with LAX-HNL?
How much better is the Business class on a 3 class plane as opposed to First on a 2 class plane on the JFK-PHX and PHX - HNL routes?
On a TP run with the following, I guess this is the difference:
DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+210+210+210+210+210+40 = 1340 TP
DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LCY-DUB = 40+210+140+140+140+140+210+40 = 1060TP
Is this correct? Sorry for the questions!
1. All transcons JFK<->LAX and JFK<->SFO are 3-class and I or J ticket books into Business (but good business for NA!)
2. All semi-TPAC - US mainland <-> HI are 2-class and I/J books into A (First) [just as KARFA posted before me]
3. How much better is C JFK-LAX compared to F JFK-PHX? MUCH better
4. How much better is F LAX-HNL compared to F PHX-HNL? Somewhat better
5. On the TPs the first example is correct. The second could be the outcome if your ticket has the BA codeshare flight numbers going ->HNL->. If using AA flight numbers both these flights are 210 TPs, ie coming out at 1200 TPs
Conclusion: Not much more insane than the majority of posters here
Last edited by onobond; Dec 22, 2014 at 4:30 pm Reason: Cred to KARFA for HNL flights, posted while I was cooking
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KARFA and onobond, you guys are the reason this forum and particularly this thread just...well...work. Excellent information!
I think I'll do JFK-LAX-HNL on 3 then 2 class, and then on the return do HNL-PHX-JFK on a 2 class, firstly to experience both and secondly to not lose too many TPs for the run.
Thanks again! Here's hoping dutch_122 can work some magic! Was playing about with ITA Matrix and Google Flights but couldn't manage to input the entire route due to not having enough flights, even when I skip some flights (to force it into showing more flights)
I think I'll do JFK-LAX-HNL on 3 then 2 class, and then on the return do HNL-PHX-JFK on a 2 class, firstly to experience both and secondly to not lose too many TPs for the run.
Thanks again! Here's hoping dutch_122 can work some magic! Was playing about with ITA Matrix and Google Flights but couldn't manage to input the entire route due to not having enough flights, even when I skip some flights (to force it into showing more flights)
OK, sanity check:
1. All transcons JFK<->LAX and JFK<->SFO are 3-class and I or J ticket books into Business (but good business for NA!)
2. All semi-TPAC - US mainland <-> HI are 2-class and I/J books into A (First) [just as KARFA posted before me]
3. How much better is C JFK-LAX compared to F JFK-PHX? MUCH better
4. How much better is F LAX-HNL compared to F PHX-HNL? Somewhat better
5. On the TPs the first example is correct. The second could be the outcome if your ticket has the BA codeshare flight numbers going ->HNL->. If using AA flight numbers both these flights are 210 TPs, ie coming out at 1200 TPs
Conclusion: Not much more insane than the majority of posters here
1. All transcons JFK<->LAX and JFK<->SFO are 3-class and I or J ticket books into Business (but good business for NA!)
2. All semi-TPAC - US mainland <-> HI are 2-class and I/J books into A (First) [just as KARFA posted before me]
3. How much better is C JFK-LAX compared to F JFK-PHX? MUCH better
4. How much better is F LAX-HNL compared to F PHX-HNL? Somewhat better
5. On the TPs the first example is correct. The second could be the outcome if your ticket has the BA codeshare flight numbers going ->HNL->. If using AA flight numbers both these flights are 210 TPs, ie coming out at 1200 TPs
Conclusion: Not much more insane than the majority of posters here
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I'm now tracking UuA availability (LAX<>LHR) to see if there's any prospects. The odd seat pops up in F, on the wrong dates, but they disappear very quickly!
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I'm now tracking UuA availability (LAX<>LHR) to see if there's any prospects. The odd seat pops up in F, on the wrong dates, but they disappear very quickly!
I'm now tracking UuA availability (LAX<>LHR) to see if there's any prospects. The odd seat pops up in F, on the wrong dates, but they disappear very quickly!
you've grown up, Uncle T!
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Are you getting a good fare for September? It would definitely be my choice of when to go but the wiki indicates the travel dates of the current ex DUB sales don't include it and I'm struggling to find anything close to good value to HNL between the end of August & late November.
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It's probably been answered before, but is it unanimously to route via DFW with AA rather than PHX with US? (Obviously via LAX wins for fewer TPs).
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Of the 2 options, AA's 763 HNL-DFW is a better experience by a distance although there might be more lucrative TP opportunities going a different route altogether.
Last edited by Blueboys999; Dec 23, 2014 at 6:02 am
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LAX beats DFW on TPs, assuming you're flying in domestically at least.
LHR - DFW/PHX/LAX - HNL = 350
LCY - JFK - PHX - HNL = 630
LCY - JFK - LAX - HNL = 560
LCY - JFK - DFW - HNL = 480
-70 on each of the last three for starting at LHR.
LHR - DFW/PHX/LAX - HNL = 350
LCY - JFK - PHX - HNL = 630
LCY - JFK - LAX - HNL = 560
LCY - JFK - DFW - HNL = 480
-70 on each of the last three for starting at LHR.