CCR vs The Wing = Boring
Oct 21, 2014, 1:11 pm
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Oct 21, 2014, 1:20 pm
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The Wing is the product of two excellent Hong Kong family businesses owned by serious long term investors - the Swire family's Cathay Pacific; and the Kadoorie family's Peninsula Hotels.
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
Oct 21, 2014, 2:05 pm
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Uncrowded, with excellent food, drink and attentive nothing-is-too-much-trouble service makes this, in my opinion, the best LHR lounge, bar none (and I include the CCR in that comparison). It feels more like a private club than an airline lounge.
Oct 21, 2014, 2:16 pm
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CCR vs The Wing = Boring
Thanks Chaps. I am waiting to push back on QR2 and I am struggling to recall a more pleasant lounge experience. The bar is like the old T1 bar. The staff are fantastic and the brasserie food was excellent.
Mrs srbrenna, who vaguely tolerates our flying patterns, has decreed that QR will have to be used for all eastern flights. High praise indeed!
The onboard champagne is really good rather than just drinkable. It's like BA was fifteen years ago.
Mrs srbrenna, who vaguely tolerates our flying patterns, has decreed that QR will have to be used for all eastern flights. High praise indeed!
The onboard champagne is really good rather than just drinkable. It's like BA was fifteen years ago.
Oct 21, 2014, 2:23 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Class
The Wing is the product of two excellent Hong Kong family businesses owned by serious long term investors - the Swire family's Cathay Pacific; and the Kadoorie family's Peninsula Hotels.
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
Exactly - good post😃
Originally Posted by J-Class
The Wing is the product of two excellent Hong Kong family businesses owned by serious long term investors - the Swire family's Cathay Pacific; and the Kadoorie family's Peninsula Hotels.
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
Exactly - good post😃
Oct 21, 2014, 2:48 pm
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The Wing is the product of two excellent Hong Kong family businesses owned by serious long term investors - the Swire family's Cathay Pacific; and the Kadoorie family's Peninsula Hotels.
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
Oct 21, 2014, 3:02 pm
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Maybe it's because I'm US based, or because I've never been to the Wing, but I like the CCR. I don't mind people not coming around offering me drinks because I actually like being left alone in a lounge. If I want service, I can go to the restaurant. Otherwise, I can look after myself just like I do in every other lounge I go to.
On board is a different story, but I think the two are distinguishable.
On board is a different story, but I think the two are distinguishable.
Oct 21, 2014, 6:54 pm
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QF SYD F lounges often have capacity issues at the dining area though.
It very frequently involves a fairly substantial wait (i.e. 10 or more minutes) during meal times to get a table, and the service can be pretty slow.
It's also often difficult to get a spa treatment, although the treatment at QF F lounges are better than the Elemis one (but so it should be as it's for F/OWE only and not available to CW/J/OWS).
If you sit away from the dining area, you won't really get waiter service either.
I also do not particularly like the Marc Newson décor but that is just my personal preference.
Qantas, not Quantas, if you could please. 
If you haven't tried the fish (sea bass) at the CCR, I'd recommend it. The food has improved at the CCR quite a bit in recent months, and service has improved also, along with the food presentation.
There are a few items on the menu that I am not particularly impressed with at the CCR, but overall, I think it's better than it was 6 months ago.
On the other hand, I have been seeing "less good" food at the Wing more often - one fish was seriously undercooked (despite my being a sashimi lover, this was a proper case of undercooked fish) had lukewarm food too frequently for my liking (when it should have been hot, not designed to be lukewarm) and very slow service more recently, even though it never used to happen there. I feel that the standard has come down quite a bit or maybe become less consistent.
It very frequently involves a fairly substantial wait (i.e. 10 or more minutes) during meal times to get a table, and the service can be pretty slow.
It's also often difficult to get a spa treatment, although the treatment at QF F lounges are better than the Elemis one (but so it should be as it's for F/OWE only and not available to CW/J/OWS).
If you sit away from the dining area, you won't really get waiter service either.
I also do not particularly like the Marc Newson décor but that is just my personal preference.
In my experience of about a dozen visits to F wing and CCR, I would say the food in the HKG F wing is way above the CCR. F Wing food is more up to the standard of an actual restuarant rather than a cafeteria (which is what CCR is like) Food in CCR is very average - in fact I much prefer eating at Plane Food in LHR.
Service is also better in the Wing.
Service is also better in the Wing.
There are a few items on the menu that I am not particularly impressed with at the CCR, but overall, I think it's better than it was 6 months ago.
On the other hand, I have been seeing "less good" food at the Wing more often - one fish was seriously undercooked (despite my being a sashimi lover, this was a proper case of undercooked fish) had lukewarm food too frequently for my liking (when it should have been hot, not designed to be lukewarm) and very slow service more recently, even though it never used to happen there. I feel that the standard has come down quite a bit or maybe become less consistent.
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Oct 21, 2014, 7:22 pm
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No disrespect intended, as food preferences are subjective, but I find this statement hilarious!
Oct 21, 2014, 7:52 pm
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CCR isn't all that bad. Look at the bright side. At least it's not an Admiral's Club. What they serve in those lounges and the Flagship lounges is an utter joke. The LAX FL...two hot items, some fruit, yoghurt, and bread. And that's supposed to be a Flagship Lounge? Even the CX lounge at SIN serves better food than that lounge.
Oct 21, 2014, 9:11 pm
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QF SYD F lounges often have capacity issues at the dining area though.
It very frequently involves a fairly substantial wait (i.e. 10 or more minutes) during meal times to get a table, and the service can be pretty slow.
It's also often difficult to get a spa treatment, although the treatment at QF F lounges are better than the Elemis one (but so it should be as it's for F/OWE only and not available to CW/J/OWS).
It very frequently involves a fairly substantial wait (i.e. 10 or more minutes) during meal times to get a table, and the service can be pretty slow.
It's also often difficult to get a spa treatment, although the treatment at QF F lounges are better than the Elemis one (but so it should be as it's for F/OWE only and not available to CW/J/OWS).
Having said that, I have found Spa treatments marginally easier to obtain in the SYD lounge recently, but that's because they switched providers earlier this year from Payot to Aurora, and shortened the treatment time overall to get more throughput.
Oct 21, 2014, 11:14 pm
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A good post LTN Phobia.
I will be back in the SYD F lounge before year end so will try it again, but have experienced all of the issues you mention.
it is a pretty good Flounge, and I enjoy going there. It compares positively to the T5 Flounge, which is its direct comparison.
I will be back in the SYD F lounge before year end so will try it again, but have experienced all of the issues you mention.
it is a pretty good Flounge, and I enjoy going there. It compares positively to the T5 Flounge, which is its direct comparison.
Oct 21, 2014, 11:57 pm
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The Wing is the product of two excellent Hong Kong family businesses owned by serious long term investors - the Swire family's Cathay Pacific; and the Kadoorie family's Peninsula Hotels.
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
The CCR is owned by a public company, IAG, whose executives want to get rich quickly, and is run by a mid-market catering firm.
Does that help clarify matters?
I like but don't love the Wing but it does generally deliver aside from the dodgy decor.
The CCR is arguably just the third best lounge at LHR.
Oct 22, 2014, 12:36 am
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QR and VS for the two better lounges?
I have read some positive comments re one of the new T2 lounges.
Oct 22, 2014, 12:41 am
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In my experience of about a dozen visits to F wing and CCR, I would say the food in the HKG F wing is way above the CCR. F Wing food is more up to the standard of an actual restuarant rather than a cafeteria (which is what CCR is like) Food in CCR is very average - in fact I much prefer eating at Plane Food in LHR.
Service is also better in the Wing.
Service is also better in the Wing.
I would not describe the Wing food as restaurant quality in any way shape or form. The average Sunday brunch buffet in an Asian hotel will have a far better selection of nicer food. It is better than the T5 and T3 Flounge that is true but that isn't a high bar to hit.
A quick perusal of my posts here will show me as a fierce and vigorous BA critic. There are many better lounges in the world than the CCR but the Wing (in my own experience) is not one of them. One of the best is the JFK CCR though which is in most respects significantly better than the F Wing. Only the wing shower facilities are better.