Back to KL [BA to resume flights to Kuala Lumpur from May 2015]
Aug 29, 2015, 7:47 am
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You'll find lots of scathing reviews of WT+. Broadly, there are two major strands to these: those who think that WT+ is supposed to be some sort of business class-lite product (it isn't; it's a tarted-up version of economy) and are disappointed to discover the truth; and those who profess to be unable to tell the difference between any seats that don't fold out into a lie-flat bed and who generally regard business class as the lowest acceptable form of air transport.
People who normally fly economy, and for whom WT+ is a treat, often rather like WT+. But of course, you can always have a bad individual flight in any cabin.
People who normally fly economy, and for whom WT+ is a treat, often rather like WT+. But of course, you can always have a bad individual flight in any cabin.
Aug 29, 2015, 8:29 am
#122
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You'll find lots of scathing reviews of WT+. Broadly, there are two major strands to these: those who think that WT+ is supposed to be some sort of business class-lite product (it isn't; it's a tarted-up version of economy) and are disappointed to discover the truth; and those who profess to be unable to tell the difference between any seats that don't fold out into a lie-flat bed and who generally regard business class as the lowest acceptable form of air transport.
People who normally fly economy, and for whom WT+ is a treat, often rather like WT+. But of course, you can always have a bad individual flight in any cabin.
People who normally fly economy, and for whom WT+ is a treat, often rather like WT+. But of course, you can always have a bad individual flight in any cabin.
Thank you for the enlightenment, it sure is eye-opening to learn of all this. :-:
Aug 29, 2015, 9:11 am
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In the UK, many knowledgeable people would long have put SQ in the same league as BA, if not higher (at least as far as cabin service and comfort are concerned). So I wonder whether that is/was just a local attitude there?
Aug 29, 2015, 9:20 am
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Having said that though, now with prices approaching reasonable levels, more people are able to take the 'cattle class' onboard European carriers. Which, such as my case, brings about comparisons and the realisation that Western carriers might not be as impressive as we've heard it to be.
Potentially unrelated, but the big three Gulf carriers have astounding prices for flights originating from KUL to European destinations. Which is why people like me would bank our miles in either EK or QR in the hopes of being able to redeem them.
Aug 29, 2015, 9:35 am
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FYI, BA are due to start flying a 787-9 on the KL route from 5th December 15 if you are planning to fly there again.
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Aug 29, 2015, 9:51 am
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phew, this thread had me worried! We fly on Dec 10th and have just double-checked on MMB, and yes, it's a 787-9 (which I presume will be shiny and new?)
Aug 29, 2015, 10:08 am
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Shiny and new and great in WTP and above.
In WT, nobody really knows - the seats will be a little wider than in the 788 but still ten-abreast so might be a little constrained.
In WT, nobody really knows - the seats will be a little wider than in the 788 but still ten-abreast so might be a little constrained.
Aug 29, 2015, 10:13 am
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Aug 29, 2015, 11:09 am
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BA34 was packed earlier in the week, lots of families - had an op-up from WT+ to J! Fancied my chances at OLCI when there were only 3 seats to choose from in the WT+ cabin, and the seat update came through when checking the app on the way to the airport. Thanks to the forum, I knew that I could probably use the J boarding pass at Galleries while connecting onto an ET to Europe too!
Having largely done Asia-Europe in EK in the last few years, this was a reminder of the benefits of a continuous 7-hour sleep, rather than short 3-4 hour chunks. And the FAs were superb. But couldn't believe how low-res the IFE was, or limited the selection - certainly in comparison to EK's ICE, even in Y.
Rather strangely, when I booked this back in May, as it was part of an open-jaw the booking engine wasn't giving me options to select between travel classes for individual segments - and so when the payment page came up it was simply showing WT+ for BA34, although I had asked for economy in the multi-city search. So had WT+ outbound and WT inbound for about £540! The WT return in BA33 is coming up in a week, so a bump back to earth and normality!
Having largely done Asia-Europe in EK in the last few years, this was a reminder of the benefits of a continuous 7-hour sleep, rather than short 3-4 hour chunks. And the FAs were superb. But couldn't believe how low-res the IFE was, or limited the selection - certainly in comparison to EK's ICE, even in Y.
Rather strangely, when I booked this back in May, as it was part of an open-jaw the booking engine wasn't giving me options to select between travel classes for individual segments - and so when the payment page came up it was simply showing WT+ for BA34, although I had asked for economy in the multi-city search. So had WT+ outbound and WT inbound for about £540! The WT return in BA33 is coming up in a week, so a bump back to earth and normality!
Aug 29, 2015, 12:29 pm
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Aug 29, 2015, 6:39 pm
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You'll find lots of scathing reviews of WT+. Broadly, there are two major strands to these: those who think that WT+ is supposed to be some sort of business class-lite product (it isn't; it's a tarted-up version of economy) and are disappointed to discover the truth; and those who profess to be unable to tell the difference between any seats that don't fold out into a lie-flat bed and who generally regard business class as the lowest acceptable form of air transport.
People who normally fly economy, and for whom WT+ is a treat, often rather like WT+. But of course, you can always have a bad individual flight in any cabin.
People who normally fly economy, and for whom WT+ is a treat, often rather like WT+. But of course, you can always have a bad individual flight in any cabin.
10 abreast on a 777 a la AF is just simply torture. Once BA goes that way I will ditch all Longhauls with them as I did with AF in 2009.
WT+ on A380 with new IFE is decent, but on these prehistoric B777-200 unless it's very cheap, it is Definitelly not worth 1500 euro for a RT KUL-Europe.
CX, SQ or MH's hard and soft products are miles ahead of BA.
I would only rate BA slightly better than LH or AF.
Flying 4 sectors on BA is a necessary evil to keep EC status, not something I would do volountarily.
Aug 29, 2015, 8:19 pm
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Sep 18, 2015, 8:41 am
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What did they do and how did they handle it in terms of compensation etc? Which new seats did you get?
Am now worried - I'm travelling to KUL in F in several weeks. Really hope this was just a one-off.
Sep 18, 2015, 8:41 am
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