can't be long before club in europe is stopped

Old Jul 9, 14, 2:51 pm
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can't be long before club in europe is stopped

Hi

With the new changes to seats in club on european flights. There is barely any benefit to going business now in europe, especially if you have silver or gold card.

How long before they phase it out do we all think?
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Old Jul 9, 14, 2:56 pm
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General consensus in previous similar discussions seems to be that we don't think they would get rid of it as it would further scupper BA's premium market from Europe to the Americas.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 2:56 pm
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CE will remain due to the high volumes of corporate pax who have a J travel policy, and also significantly due to connecting premium pax.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:00 pm
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And because a business class product is offered on LF, LX, AF, KL, IB, etc.

Someone will have to blink first before BA scrap it. Many passengers will not fly Y.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by si007 View Post
Hi

With the new changes to seats in club on european flights. There is barely any benefit to going business now in europe, especially if you have silver or gold card.
All the more reason it has a future. Doesn't costs BA much to operate, and yet still ensures:
1) Some full fare business travel
2) Intercontinental transfers in J.F
3) A sizeable market for upgrades @ 50-150 for an offering that costs a few pence and an unsold middle seat.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by si007 View Post
Hi

With the new changes to seats in club on european flights. There is barely any benefit to going business now in europe, especially if you have silver or gold card.

How long before they phase it out do we all think?
If you don't fly business, how do you get Gold?
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:09 pm
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Oh, it's so sad. What expectations people have.

CE is a 'bit' better than ET. You get free food and drink (the latter being an imperative for the FT community).

I have benefitted from the connection to CW by getting CE. I have even this last week flow CE at my own expense ... yes, with my own money.

If it causes people so much grief/angst/anger, either fly ET or go LoCo ... and stop bloody whining.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:25 pm
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I enjoy travelling in CE and will happily pay for it at reasonable cost.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:29 pm
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Rubbish.

The TATL connections alone make this worth it.

Put another way, what on earth makes you think that CE is going anywhere?
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post

If it causes people so much grief/angst/anger, either fly ET or go LoCo ... and stop bloody whining.
hear hear
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:36 pm
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I don't think it will go until LH and/or AF get rid of their short haul business class, which I don't see happening in the foreseeable future.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 3:42 pm
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LIS this afternoon had 16 PAX in CE - busiest CE I have seen for a while....
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Old Jul 9, 14, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by our_kid View Post
LIS this afternoon had 16 PAX in CE - busiest CE I have seen for a while....
That's nothing - you should see the GVA flights! I think the busiest I saw was 12 full rows of CE.
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My route LIN-LHR is always full in club Europe, once I saw 13 rows of it! Connecting passengers, business only policy and FlyerTalkers will make it continue.
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Old Jul 9, 14, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
Oh, it's so sad. What expectations people have.

CE is a 'bit' better than ET. You get free food and drink (the latter being an imperative for the FT community).

I have benefitted from the connection to CW by getting CE. I have even this last week flow CE at my own expense ... yes, with my own money.

If it causes people so much grief/angst/anger, either fly ET or go LoCo ... and stop bloody whining.
Hear hear.

CE isn't great, especially if you need to work. But many people, like me, use it for "premium leisure" instead, and the associated TPs are more than welcome. In fact, if they took the TPs away, I'd stop travelling CE.

As it is, I quite like the empty middle seat, the general peace and quiet, and champagne with my breakfast.

If people don't like the product, then don't buy it.
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