Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
#107
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#108
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GRU - LHR on 15/08/14
Folks,
I am on BA246 on Friday and I would like to UuA from CW to First. No availability at the moment, but I was wondering what people thought the likelihood of availability opening up was?
FlightStats has
F7 A6 J7 C6 D5 R5 I5 W4 E1 T1 and zeros across the board in WT
As a gold do you think there is much likelihood of an op up?
Cheers
Manx Flyer
I am on BA246 on Friday and I would like to UuA from CW to First. No availability at the moment, but I was wondering what people thought the likelihood of availability opening up was?
FlightStats has
F7 A6 J7 C6 D5 R5 I5 W4 E1 T1 and zeros across the board in WT
As a gold do you think there is much likelihood of an op up?
Cheers
Manx Flyer
#110
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Hi,
Could someone look at FLR-LCY for 15th August (BA3280) for me? Can't check in online and hoping for an AUP as I'm 30 TPs short of gold.
Many thanks!
Could someone look at FLR-LCY for 15th August (BA3280) for me? Can't check in online and hoping for an AUP as I'm 30 TPs short of gold.
Many thanks!
#112
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Thanks for looking so quickly. You're right, doesn't look great!
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#113
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Ba99 aug 24 LHR YYZ
Would someone be mind enough to check loads on BA 99
Tomorrow LHR to YYZ ?
May need to book quickly in WT+....or even Y
Many thanks
Tomorrow LHR to YYZ ?
May need to book quickly in WT+....or even Y
Many thanks
#114
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Expertflyer says F1 A1 J2 C1 W1 with all other classes zero or closed for UK PoS.
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#116
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Have you checked the availability and fares (likely to be high) on ba.com?
#117
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Hi all, I wonder if someone can shed a little light on something for me.
I'm still an amateur here when it comes to understanding booking classes.
I need a flight for Sat 30.08.14 from VIE to LHR. Reward availability is very poor this week (usually quite good) with no economy flights showing, so I'm not sure whether to just book a flight with cash.
I've followed the advice here (searched on FlightStats) and on all flights that day there seems to be good availability in Y, B, H; but there are no reward flights showing. Are any of these seats likely to be made available? or are these classes usually not released?
I'd be grateful for any info, thanks.
I'm still an amateur here when it comes to understanding booking classes.
I need a flight for Sat 30.08.14 from VIE to LHR. Reward availability is very poor this week (usually quite good) with no economy flights showing, so I'm not sure whether to just book a flight with cash.
I've followed the advice here (searched on FlightStats) and on all flights that day there seems to be good availability in Y, B, H; but there are no reward flights showing. Are any of these seats likely to be made available? or are these classes usually not released?
I'd be grateful for any info, thanks.
Last edited by headingwest; Aug 25, 2014 at 9:24 am Reason: added
#118
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So I've just read that they take from X, P, U, Z. They never take from other fares?
#119
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X is for Economy, P is for Premium Economy, U is for Business and Z is for First - these are the redemption classes. Additionally Golds can access V class availability for Economy rewards.
If your flight is only showing YBH then I doubt you'll have any success, but do keep checking as seats may be released at the last minute (again, doubtful if only YBH).
If your flight is only showing YBH then I doubt you'll have any success, but do keep checking as seats may be released at the last minute (again, doubtful if only YBH).
#120
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Thanks for the reply BA6501