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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jan 22, 2016, 1:44 pm
          #2386  
         
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        Originally Posted by rikkdh
        Thanks MPH1980... have just checked after using Expert Flyer and low and behold WTP has opened up... just not club or 1st yet :-(

        Don't suppose anyone has any guidance on how best to use the 241 with 2 kids, and 2 adults... is it wrong to put them in WTP and us in 1st? (opens self up to criticism) - They are 11&14 and very very well behaved...? How best to book with BA?
        The person named on the 241 has to be travelling in the PNR that the 241 is used on. Since you can't do a multi-class PNR (e.g. 2 in club, 2 in WTP) - and I assume the 241s are in yours and your partner's names ... you'll have to be one with each child in each cabin to use them.

        You can book online or over the phone. Probably easiest over the phone.

        I, personally, wouldn't leave two kids of that age alone and together in a separate cabin (potentially a different floor of the plane too). You won't be around to defuse any fights that might/will break out in a confined space over 11 hours and you'll be either relying on the nature of your kids, or the crew/other passengers to resolve problems.

        I remember myself and my brothers at that age - we got on pretty well - but I wouldn't trust us not to have raised voices in that time.

        But this isn't really the thread for the "kids alone" discussion.
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 6:07 am
          #2387  
         
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        Please would someone be kind enough to check club world availability on the following flights?
        LGW - TPA BA 2167. 26/02/16
        TPA - LGW BA 2166. 04/03/16
        They are at their lowest price at the moment. I want to book flight & hotel for 3 people so can't hold them but can't confirm until someone checks with work on Monday - it's going to be a long weekend but knowing how many left may help put my mind at rest.
        Many thanks
        Debbie
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 6:46 am
          #2388  
         
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        Originally Posted by dibbs19
        Please would someone be kind enough to check club world availability on the following flights?
        LGW - TPA BA 2167. 26/02/16
        TPA - LGW BA 2166. 04/03/16
        They are at their lowest price at the moment. I want to book flight & hotel for 3 people so can't hold them but can't confirm until someone checks with work on Monday - it's going to be a long weekend but knowing how many left may help put my mind at rest.
        Many thanks
        Debbie
        The 2167:
        J9 C9 D9 R9 I7 W9 E7 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        The 2166:
        J9 C9 D9 R9 I6 W7 E5 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 6:52 am
          #2389  
         
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        Thanks a million MPH1980 - very much appreciated
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 8:29 am
          #2390  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2013
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        Anyone able to check availability on BA0125 DOH - LHR on 04/02/16.

        Thanks in advance
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 8:45 am
          #2391  
         
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        Originally Posted by jamesreid978
        Anyone able to check availability on BA0125 DOH - LHR on 04/02/16.

        Thanks in advance
        UK POS (to differentiate from the US POS info below)

        F1 A0 J9 C2 D1 RC IC W9 E6 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S7 N4 QC OC G0

        That's the 124 ... which is what I assume you mean as the 125 is LHR-DOH.
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 8:46 am
          #2392  
         
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        Originally Posted by jamesreid978
        Anyone able to check availability on BA0125 DOH - LHR on 04/02/16.

        Thanks in advance
        Do you mean BA124 DOH-LHR?

        Flight Availability
        DOH to LHR on 02/04/16 12:00 AM
        Flying BA
        Expanded
        BA 124 DOH 11:45p → LHR 6:15a
        F0 A0 J9 C6 D2 W9 E7 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 G0

        If you mean BA125 LHR-DOH then:

        Expanded
        BA 125 LHR 10:40a → DOH 10:10p
        F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        NB: date in US format
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 9:02 am
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        Originally Posted by Lucanesque
        Do you mean BA124 DOH-LHR?

        Flight Availability
        DOH to LHR on 02/04/16 12:00 AM
        Flying BA
        Expanded
        BA 124 DOH 11:45p → LHR 6:15a
        F0 A0 J9 C6 D2 W9 E7 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 G0

        If you mean BA125 LHR-DOH then:

        Expanded
        BA 125 LHR 10:40a → DOH 10:10p
        F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        NB: date in US format
        Yes, I meant BA0124. Thanks a lot for the information, much appreciated.

        I see BA0124 has 0 availability in F or A, but yet you can still purchase a F ticket on th BA website. Is this normal? Just seen that you put on for US format, the one I was looking for is on 4th of February 2016. Apologies, I should have been more clear.

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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 9:09 am
          #2394  
         
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        Originally Posted by jamesreid978
        Yes, I meant BA0124. Thanks a lot for the information, much appreciated.

        I see BA0124 has 0 availability in F or A, but yet you can still purchase a F ticket on th BA website. Is this normal? Just seen that you put on for US format, the one I was looking for is on 4th of February 2016. Apologies, I should have been more clear.
        See my response.

        The UK point of sale (which is what I presume you're seeing on the BA website) is offering one F ticket for sale.
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 9:11 am
          #2395  
         
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        See my response.

        The UK point of sale (which is what I presume you're seeing on the BA website) is offering one F ticket for sale.
        Ack - sorry - forgot to click the drop down to change to UK PoS
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        Old Jan 23, 2016, 11:58 am
          #2396  
         
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        See my response.

        The UK point of sale (which is what I presume you're seeing on the BA website) is offering one F ticket for sale.
        Thanks a lot. Never noticed your original response for some reason!
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        Old Jan 24, 2016, 3:09 am
          #2397  
         
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        Please would someone be kind enough to check club world availability on the following flights?

        LHR - ATH BA632 19/03/16
        ATH - LHR BA633 20/03/16

        Appreciate
        Thank you
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        Old Jan 24, 2016, 3:17 am
          #2398  
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        Originally Posted by David buick
        Please would someone be kind enough to check club world availability on the following flights?

        LHR - ATH BA632 19/03/16
        ATH - LHR BA633 20/03/16

        Appreciate
        Thank you
        to ATH:
        J9 C9 D4 R9 IC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 VC NC QC OC SC G0

        from ATH:
        J9 C9 D4 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q9 O9 S9 G9

        That's for Club Europe rather than World. It's some way off, though it's close to the Western Easter I guess. Orthodox Easter is 1 May in 2016. Still it's difficult to read much into this so far off.
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        Old Jan 24, 2016, 5:55 am
          #2399  
         
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        Help to check seat availability and flight loads

        Hi All,

        Could someone please check the flight loads for LHR to CPT for the 3/02/16 (February 3rd)
        So that's

        BA0059
        BA0043

        Thank you in advance
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        Old Jan 24, 2016, 6:28 am
          #2400  
         
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        Originally Posted by freshaz
        Hi All,

        Could someone please check the flight loads for LHR to CPT for the 3/02/16 (February 3rd)
        So that's

        BA0059
        BA0043

        Thank you in advance
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com

        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 02/03/16 12:00 AM for CPT
        Flying BA
        Point of Sale: UK

        Frequency
        Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 43 0 LHR CPT 744 Unavailable F1 A0 J0 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B5 H2 K2 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
        02/03/16 5:35 PM 02/04/16 7:05 AM 68% / 23m

        0 Connections
        BA 59 0 LHR CPT 744 Unavailable F0 A0 J1 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
        02/03/16 9:35 PM 02/04/16 11:05 AM 80% / 13m
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