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Current sign-up, referral, spend promotions and retention offers
New member sign ups
British Airways American Express Premium Plus Card:
Collect 25,000 bonus Avios when you spend £3,000 within the first three months of card membership.
British Airways American Express Credit Card:
Collect 9,000 bonus Avios when you spend £1,000 within the first three months of card membership.
Referrals
If you are already a BA American Express card holder (either BA card) and introduce a friend to the BA American Express card, you'll receive a 4,000 Avios bonus once your friend's application is approved.
If you are already a BA American Express card holder (either BA card) and introduce a friend to the Premium Plus card, you'll receive a 9,000 Avios bonus once your friend's application is approved.
If your friend achieves the spend required for the welcome offer on either card they'll receive an additional 1,000 Avios. I.e. 26,000 or 10,000 total bonus Avios for the Premium Plus and Credit Card respectively.
Promotions
Retention offers
Voucher eligible spend
Pretty much everything counts towards the £10,000 (or £20,000) required to earn a 2-4-1 Companion Voucher, including the following which might be unexpected:
A few things that don't:
The online total to the right of the card summary is pretty up to date, and far more useful for tracking spend than what the statements show.
Insurance
Both standard and Premium Plus cards include insurance benefits for goods and services purchased on the card. Full details here and here respectively. Summary of Premium Plus benefit are shown here, with standard card offering same cover unless alternate figure is shown in parentheses:
New member sign ups
British Airways American Express Premium Plus Card:
Collect 25,000 bonus Avios when you spend £3,000 within the first three months of card membership.
British Airways American Express Credit Card:
Collect 9,000 bonus Avios when you spend £1,000 within the first three months of card membership.
Referrals
If you are already a BA American Express card holder (either BA card) and introduce a friend to the BA American Express card, you'll receive a 4,000 Avios bonus once your friend's application is approved.
If you are already a BA American Express card holder (either BA card) and introduce a friend to the Premium Plus card, you'll receive a 9,000 Avios bonus once your friend's application is approved.
If your friend achieves the spend required for the welcome offer on either card they'll receive an additional 1,000 Avios. I.e. 26,000 or 10,000 total bonus Avios for the Premium Plus and Credit Card respectively.
Small print:
You must refer your friend via the referral link provided above to be eligible for this offer.
You may recommend as many friends or family members as you wish but you can only receive a maximum of 45,000 Avios per calendar year for those approved for a Card.
You will receive 4,000 bonus Avios if your friend applies and is approved for the British Airways American Express Credit Card. Your friend will receive 4,000 bonus Avios after they have been approved and spent a minimum of £1,000 on goods and services purchased and charged to their Account within three months of Account opening.
You will receive 9,000 bonus Avios if your friend applies and is approved for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus Card. Your friend will receive 19,000 bonus Avios after they have been approved and spent a minimum of £3,000 on goods and services purchased and charged to their Account within three months of Account opening.
When completing the referral form, you must
(i) select the Card you hold from the list at Step 1 and
(ii) select a card to recommend from those listed at Step 2. If you do not follow this process, you and your friend will not be eligible for the bonus.
If your friend has already applied for any of the British Airways American Express Credit Cards without using this referral, you and your friend will not be eligible for the bonus Avios.
All introductory offers are subject to change, can be withdrawn at any time and are not available if your friend currently holds or has held any other British Airways American Express Credit Cards in the past six months.
You must refer your friend via the referral link provided above to be eligible for this offer.
You may recommend as many friends or family members as you wish but you can only receive a maximum of 45,000 Avios per calendar year for those approved for a Card.
You will receive 4,000 bonus Avios if your friend applies and is approved for the British Airways American Express Credit Card. Your friend will receive 4,000 bonus Avios after they have been approved and spent a minimum of £1,000 on goods and services purchased and charged to their Account within three months of Account opening.
You will receive 9,000 bonus Avios if your friend applies and is approved for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus Card. Your friend will receive 19,000 bonus Avios after they have been approved and spent a minimum of £3,000 on goods and services purchased and charged to their Account within three months of Account opening.
When completing the referral form, you must
(i) select the Card you hold from the list at Step 1 and
(ii) select a card to recommend from those listed at Step 2. If you do not follow this process, you and your friend will not be eligible for the bonus.
If your friend has already applied for any of the British Airways American Express Credit Cards without using this referral, you and your friend will not be eligible for the bonus Avios.
All introductory offers are subject to change, can be withdrawn at any time and are not available if your friend currently holds or has held any other British Airways American Express Credit Cards in the past six months.
Promotions
Retention offers
Voucher eligible spend
Pretty much everything counts towards the £10,000 (or £20,000) required to earn a 2-4-1 Companion Voucher, including the following which might be unexpected:
- Foreign transaction fees
A few things that don't:
- Annual membership fee
- Interest payments
- Transactions under £1 (although you can earn the single Avios )
The online total to the right of the card summary is pretty up to date, and far more useful for tracking spend than what the statements show.
Insurance
Both standard and Premium Plus cards include insurance benefits for goods and services purchased on the card. Full details here and here respectively. Summary of Premium Plus benefit are shown here, with standard card offering same cover unless alternate figure is shown in parentheses:
- Purchase protection: £2,500
- Refund protection: £300 (£200) per item
- Flight delay / cancellation / overbooking / missed: £200 (£0)
- Baggage delay (6+ hours): £750 (£0)
- Baggage delay (48+ hours): £1,000 (£0), additional to 6 hours benefit
- Accident: £250,000 (£75,000)
- Hijack (24+ hours): £1,500
- Hijack (72+ hours): £3,000, additional to the 24h benefit
BA American Express credit card
#2371
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The North
Posts: 1,848
Yes, this is the kind of thing that I was meaning. I think the same applies for things like council tax, a lot of energy companies (if you want to build up credit) etc. The kind of thing where you might well be putting through a large sum. It’s justified by the higher load imposed on the retailer. But these aren’t “product” exclusions, as you say.
#2372
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
I know the new voucher shows availability in I class - But what are the other factors that show availability?
I'm looking at Singapore in January and there is some availability from BHD/INV but none from LHR/DUB. With prices still high and it getting closer to January and now CS on that route I could really do with using the companion voucher if possible so any tips are appreciated.
I'm looking at Singapore in January and there is some availability from BHD/INV but none from LHR/DUB. With prices still high and it getting closer to January and now CS on that route I could really do with using the companion voucher if possible so any tips are appreciated.
#2373
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
I know the new voucher shows availability in I class - But what are the other factors that show availability?
I'm looking at Singapore in January and there is some availability from BHD/INV but none from LHR/DUB. With prices still high and it getting closer to January and now CS on that route I could really do with using the companion voucher if possible so any tips are appreciated.
I'm looking at Singapore in January and there is some availability from BHD/INV but none from LHR/DUB. With prices still high and it getting closer to January and now CS on that route I could really do with using the companion voucher if possible so any tips are appreciated.
Still religiously checking this and it seems as though nothing new appears, so if it's worth me changing my search criteria to find something then let me know.
Oh and one last thing - It says I can see extra reward Availability as a gold member, what does this actually mean?
I also know that this is a very difficult question to ask, but are I class fares likely to appear at any given time before now and January and also, is ExpertFlyer the right tool to set-up an alert for this sort of thing?
Example:
BA15
12/1/23 : F0 A0 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
17/1/23 is : F0 A0 J9 C9 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
On the 17/1 It shows 4 Reward seats available, however there are none available on the 12th. My assumption is that maybe these are 'C' seats and there has to be a certain number available for them to be able to be redeemed using a companion voucher?
Or maybe this has something to do with it being Ex-BHD?
Last edited by JD1905; Aug 24, 2022 at 10:10 am
#2374
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dundee
Programs: BA Plastic. HH Diamond. Speedwell Bar Lifetime Platinum.
Posts: 1,426
I'm afraid I can't help, but what's the price difference between Belfast and Dublin, and Belfast and Inverness?
And as it's a new voucher, what's availability like from the Continent?
And as it's a new voucher, what's availability like from the Continent?
#2375
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
When there was availability Ex-DUB it was cheaper, but there is now no availability. Ex-INV not checked price but availability appears to be the same as BHD.
#2376
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
Having Cross-Referenced the BA Availability with ExpertFlyer it looks like there might be something in the 'C' Fare Class - On the days where C=9 then usually (Not always though, there is availability on BA).
From Dublin there is nothing anytime really.
From Dublin there is nothing anytime really.
Last edited by JD1905; Aug 24, 2022 at 1:54 pm
#2377
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dundee
Programs: BA Plastic. HH Diamond. Speedwell Bar Lifetime Platinum.
Posts: 1,426
#2378
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
Would love to know the algorithm for these Premium Plus rewards however I wouldn’t be surprised if nobody has quite got to the bottom of it yet!
#2379
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dundee
Programs: BA Plastic. HH Diamond. Speedwell Bar Lifetime Platinum.
Posts: 1,426
Have you tried phoning?
#2380
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
I’m confused now - There is no Avios availability from DUB or LHR to SIN for many months.
#2381
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dundee
Programs: BA Plastic. HH Diamond. Speedwell Bar Lifetime Platinum.
Posts: 1,426
Checking only the outbound as a one way on the 17th, I can see the availability for 2 on the INV-LHR-SIN, ABZ-LHR-SIN, GLA-LHR-SIN, NCL-LHR-SIN, BHD-LHR-SIN, but nothing from LHR-SIN, AMS-LHR-SIN,
If you're keen on going, why not book what's available and convenient?
#2382
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
I meant just the DUB-LHR leg, not the whole route.
Checking only the outbound as a one way on the 17th, I can see the availability for 2 on the INV-LHR-SIN, ABZ-LHR-SIN, GLA-LHR-SIN, NCL-LHR-SIN, BHD-LHR-SIN, but nothing from LHR-SIN, AMS-LHR-SIN,
If you're keen on going, why not book what's available and convenient?
Checking only the outbound as a one way on the 17th, I can see the availability for 2 on the INV-LHR-SIN, ABZ-LHR-SIN, GLA-LHR-SIN, NCL-LHR-SIN, BHD-LHR-SIN, but nothing from LHR-SIN, AMS-LHR-SIN,
If you're keen on going, why not book what's available and convenient?
Unfortunately i’m restricted on dates - Family members are already booked up and our dates need to match. Using the voucher would have been a bonus and saved me a fair few quid however I know when you’re not flexible on dates then you’d have to get lucky!
#2383
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
Anyone had recent experience of trying to Downgrade the PP Card to regular? I called earlier this month and was told they couldn't process the downgrade as 'Systems weren't working' and was promised a call back.
No Call back, and now the £250 membership fee has been added. When I called today I was told the only option I had was to cancel and re-apply.
No Call back, and now the £250 membership fee has been added. When I called today I was told the only option I had was to cancel and re-apply.
#2384
Join Date: Jan 2020
Programs: BAEC (Gold) , Accor (Gold) , IHG
Posts: 684
Anyone had recent experience of trying to Downgrade the PP Card to regular? I called earlier this month and was told they couldn't process the downgrade as 'Systems weren't working' and was promised a call back.
No Call back, and now the £250 membership fee has been added. When I called today I was told the only option I had was to cancel and re-apply.
No Call back, and now the £250 membership fee has been added. When I called today I was told the only option I had was to cancel and re-apply.
Having earned a 241 the operator wanted to be sure I held "an" Amex card - and though I'm now just a 2nd name on a PRG was OK (though in the end kept the free card as he offered 1k avios on 1k spend in 3months (but app is showing just spend £1.2k for next 241 (when had only spent circa £11k on the BAPP))
#2385
formerly JackDann
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,660
yes, no problems, tho was about 6 weeks ago.
Having earned a 241 the operator wanted to be sure I held "an" Amex card - and though I'm now just a 2nd name on a PRG was OK (though in the end kept the free card as he offered 1k avios on 1k spend in 3months (but app is showing just spend £1.2k for next 241 (when had only spent circa £11k on the BAPP))
Having earned a 241 the operator wanted to be sure I held "an" Amex card - and though I'm now just a 2nd name on a PRG was OK (though in the end kept the free card as he offered 1k avios on 1k spend in 3months (but app is showing just spend £1.2k for next 241 (when had only spent circa £11k on the BAPP))