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Welcome to the thread—but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome! If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
  • from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
  • from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £804, LAX - £1149, HNL - £1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
  • from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £1344, LAX - £1367, HNL - £1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods

If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.

In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note the following:
  • Current availability is not guaranteed.
  • All prices include taxes.

Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:

Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.

North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat

£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015

£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)

£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)

£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US

£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA

£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US

£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US

£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA

£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA

£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US

£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA

£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US

Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA

£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA

£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA

Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)

£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX

£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX

£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH

£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR

£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)

£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)

£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH

£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH

£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ

South America


Africa


Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY

£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US

£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014

£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)

£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA

£1.51/TP | £1817 | 1200TPs | BRU-LHR-BOS-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | JimEddie | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US

£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US

£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA

£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA

£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA

£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA

Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA

Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR

£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)

Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
  • BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
  • Tickets issued on non-BA stock
TA has to issue the ticket in the country of your BAEC membership as well.

Notes
  • The ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets.
  • Some TP runs can be booked online at aa.com. Be sure to use the Sort by schedule option in order to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
  • A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here.
and externally here: http://hackmytrip.com/2012/01/introd...-to-using-ita/

AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL

US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF

oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410

BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411

To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411

All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.

BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).

LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).

LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.

MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.

LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 2:28 pm
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Sorry, another question. I tried this:

Originally Posted by KARFA View Post

outbound: LON BA1-4 JFK PHX / alliance oneworld
inbound: PHX JFK BA1-4 LON / alliance oneworld

Select business class or higher, sales city London, maybe try 4 nights and see what that brings up when searching on calendar of fares.
as a way to just have a play, but I get "the value entered is not valid". KARFA - was your comment not to be taken literally and should I modify the string slightly?

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Old Oct 9, 14, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by FastTrak2Elite View Post
Sorry, another question. I tried this:



as a way to just have a play, but I get "the value entered is not valid". KARFA - was your comment not to be taken literally and should I modify the string slightly?

Stuart
Your search screen should be like this



This is an example from DUB, but the principle is the same. Just use with CPH and HNL and the routing codes I or Calchas have suggested. I assume you weren't copying in the "outbound:" and "inbound" bits? I have just tried it for next August and it works fine.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by FastTrak2Elite View Post
So I did this and the cheapest I got was £395, which is neither:

£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J |

nor

£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I |

and the itinerary is J/R/I/J

I am therefore assuming that there is no R class on the MLA to LGW leg, therefore accounting for the £76 price increase over the first itinerary, but represents the best price available on these dates whereas the wiki listed itinerary at £319 is the best price available in the correct circumstances (flight sale, for example).

Would my assumptions be correct here?
Sort of. The I bucket is in fact the most tightly constrained and used for the cheapest and most inflexible fares on international routes. The R bucket is less constrained, and R- fares are more expensive but from the UK just as inflexible on shorthaul journeys. One often finds that the cheaper business buckets are not available when one needs them.

I imagine the I bucket is already full or has been closed on the LGW-MLA sector, and to cover it the Matrix has found you an R- fare over that sector. You will see which fares cover which sectors on the price page.
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Your search screen should be like this



This is an example from DUB, but the principle is the same. Just use with CPH and HNL and the routing codes I or Calchas have suggested. I assume you weren't copying in the "outbound:" and "inbound" bits? I have just tried it for next August and it works fine.
Ah I see. I wasn't using "outbound:" bit but was posting your sting in the "departing from" box, rather than as shown in your screenshot. I'll adjust and have another go.

Thanks again for your patience.

Stuart
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Old Oct 9, 14, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
Sort of. The I bucket is in fact the most tightly constrained and used for the cheapest and most inflexible fares on international routes. The R bucket is less constrained, and R- fares are more expensive but from the UK just as inflexible on shorthaul journeys. One often finds that the cheaper business buckets are not available when one needs them.

I imagine the I bucket is already full or has been closed on the LGW-MLA sector, and to cover it the Matrix has found you an R- fare over that sector. You will see which fares cover which sectors on the price page.
Hmm ,

if that's the case, how is that:

£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | (in more expensive classes than I)

but is in fact cheaper than

£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | (all in I)?

(Just when I thought I was getting it )
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Old Oct 9, 14, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by FastTrak2Elite View Post
Hmm ,

if that's the case, how is that:

£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | (in more expensive classes than I)

but is in fact cheaper than

£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | (all in I)?

(Just when I thought I was getting it )
It is unusual, but possibly there was an R- fare sale at the time, or a big shift in the prices on the MLA route intervened between the two options.

I am a little suspicious about that £471 I- fare because international non-economy fares always book into the J bucket on the LGW-JER sector (due to what I believe is a bug). It may have actually been two separate tickets.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 5:39 pm
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I'm looking to go to HNL on a 1500TP run in July if you want to join me?

Routing will be:

CPH-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL Return, about £1670.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:23 pm
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managed to get a reasonable deal - all booked now

need to go to the states for a new job, and at the same time wanted to get my Silver card back, after much searching, and thanks to the people on the forum for ideas, I have booked the following, the only restriction being, that I need to be in Chicago for the week for training for the new job.

LHR-DUB-LHR--PHL-ORD
ORD-JFK-LHR-DUB-LHR

All in Business apart from the inter US sectors which have come up as first, I may not use the last sector, but got the price at £2,300 being that the budget was around £2,000 which was the return cost in Economy for a BA flight going out on the Sunday, so moved the flight to a Saturday, total points should be 560, which should bring back to Silver, as I currently have 70
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Old Oct 10, 14, 1:14 am
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I hate to be the one to say this all ahead full, but that is not a very good TP run. TP runs are generally £3/TP or under, so £2300 for 560 is over £4/TP. Sorry.
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Old Oct 10, 14, 6:42 am
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Simple question but im confused with 2500 and 3500 TP and what it gets.

2500 says "a voucher that you AND a companion can use towards an upgrade to the next cabin"

So for me that means if 2 of us are in Club class then we can use the voucher to both travel in First (subject to availability of course)

3500 says "we will award you TWO Gold Upgrade for one vouchers which you can use for yourself OR to travel with a companion."

The word OR throws me a little as the above seems to suggest I will get TWO vouchers to upgrade to next class but I have to choose to use them both for myself over 2 flights or use them for myself and companion on ONE flight(which is the same as 2500)

Am i reading it wrong ?
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Old Oct 10, 14, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco View Post
Simple question but im confused with 2500 and 3500 TP and what it gets.

....

The word OR throws me a little as the above seems to suggest I will get TWO vouchers to upgrade to next class but I have to choose to use them both for myself over 2 flights or use them for myself and companion on ONE flight(which is the same as 2500)

Am i reading it wrong ?
No, that's right. The 3500 vouchers are more flexible, but you can't use one to upgrade someone else unless you are travelling together and use the other voucher for yourself.
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Old Oct 10, 14, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by dolfinco View Post
Simple question but im confused with 2500 and 3500 TP and what it gets.

2500 says "a voucher that you AND a companion can use towards an upgrade to the next cabin"

So for me that means if 2 of us are in Club class then we can use the voucher to both travel in First (subject to availability of course)

3500 says "we will award you TWO Gold Upgrade for one vouchers which you can use for yourself OR to travel with a companion."

The word OR throws me a little as the above seems to suggest I will get TWO vouchers to upgrade to next class but I have to choose to use them both for myself over 2 flights or use them for myself and companion on ONE flight(which is the same as 2500)

Am i reading it wrong ?
basically, it's a GUF2 at 2,500 and 2 x GUF1.

The difference being that a GUF2 is a voucher for 2 people on the same booking, so if you dont have a travel companion, though it can be used on a booking with just 1 pax, you are essentially not gettin full 'value' of it.

the GUF1 is only for 1 pax. So you can use it for 2 trips for just yourself. or one trip with someone else (bit like the GUF2 then).

hope that makes sense?
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Old Oct 10, 14, 7:01 am
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No, that's right. The 3500 vouchers are more flexible, but you can't use one to upgrade someone else unless you are travelling together and use the other voucher for yourself.
Still a little sorry.

I realise we need to be travelling together but at 3500 can i use both vouchers to upgrade myself and a companion travelling together which is essentially FOUR upgrades or do i have a simple choice of:

1) Me using 2 vouchers for myself on 2 flights = TWO upgrades total
2) Me using 2 vouchers for myself and a companion on the 1 flight = TWO upgrades total
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Old Oct 10, 14, 7:17 am
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Old Oct 10, 14, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by typical View Post
No, that's right. The 3500 vouchers are more flexible, but you can't use one to upgrade someone else unless you are travelling together and use the other voucher for yourself.
You can use the GUF2 to upgrade somebody else's flight, even if you're not travelling with them. I did exactly this to upgrade Ms Monkey's recent trip to Hong Kong from CW to F.
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