Jan 1, 2014, 5:11 am
Last edit by: Prospero
Welcome to the thread—but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
£1.51/TP | £1817 | 1200TPs | BRU-LHR-BOS-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | JimEddie | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
Notes
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.- from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £804, LAX - £1149, HNL - £1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £1344, LAX - £1367, HNL - £1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
- BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
- Tickets issued on non-BA stock
Notes
- The ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets.
- Some TP runs can be booked online at aa.com. Be sure to use the Sort by schedule option in order to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
- A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here.
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
BA Tier Point runs | 2014 master thread
Oct 1, 2014, 2:46 pm
#4352
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: Accor PLT,Thai Silver, HH Dia, SPG Titanium (LT Gold), Aegean Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 5,120
Did somebody ask something similar earlier today and someone who knows this stuff better than me replied and said there was an issue with QR in that fare would show on itamatrix that were no longer available? Sorry, I have tried looking for it but can't find the thread. You may be better off asking about this on the QR forum if you want yo book on QR stock with QR flights numbers.
16:20
BRU
Brussels
19:05
BKK
Bangkok
21h 45m, 1 stop
DOH
Arrives next day
£1,458 .90
return per person
includes taxes and fees
Oct 1, 2014, 3:00 pm
#4353
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 995
AA use their 763 planes from DFW to HNL and still fly a daily 763 LAX to MIA return flight - this was one of my flights last week. The 763 with business seats which are classified as First for domestic US flights are miles better than either the 757 leather or cloth First seats. You also get a Samsung tablet to use for IFE on the 763 which is very good.
Oct 1, 2014, 3:56 pm
#4355
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 12
Thanks for posting regarding the Qatar flights.
I did find the following:
03/10
CPH-DOH-BKK
05/10
BKK-DOH-CPH
ITA matrix 1517gbp
Qatar website 1706gbp.
Not too far off but I guess not a true TP run as it is just over £3/TP. I won't be going this weekend but it was an interesting exercise for me to learn the process a bit more.
I shall refrain from cluttering up this thread further unless i have something of interest or a query for a genuine trip.
Thanks for your advice thus far though.
I did find the following:
03/10
CPH-DOH-BKK
05/10
BKK-DOH-CPH
ITA matrix 1517gbp
Qatar website 1706gbp.
Not too far off but I guess not a true TP run as it is just over £3/TP. I won't be going this weekend but it was an interesting exercise for me to learn the process a bit more.
I shall refrain from cluttering up this thread further unless i have something of interest or a query for a genuine trip.
Thanks for your advice thus far though.
Oct 2, 2014, 1:49 am
#4356
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: CX*G, AF*G; BA, UA
Posts: 90
For weeks now I don't get access to the BA TP calculator.
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...r/public/en_gb
yields
>>Sorry
Unfortunately our systems are not responding, so we are unable to process your request at the moment.
We apologise for this inconvenience and suggest you try again later.<<
How does one get this page to work? Thanks!
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...r/public/en_gb
yields
>>Sorry
Unfortunately our systems are not responding, so we are unable to process your request at the moment.
We apologise for this inconvenience and suggest you try again later.<<
How does one get this page to work? Thanks!
Oct 2, 2014, 1:54 am
#4357
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Programs: BA S, VS S, SQ G, HH D, IHG D/A, Marriott G, Radisson G, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,945
zinneken have you tried it after logging in to your BAEC a/c?
Oct 2, 2014, 2:18 am
#4358
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold & GGL & CCR, HH Diam, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Spire, Tastecard
Posts: 7,549
You might believe that but I have just checked the AA flight schedules out as far as they are published and all direct flights from LAX to HNL and back are listed as Boeing 757.
AA use their 763 planes from DFW to HNL and still fly a daily 763 LAX to MIA return flight - this was one of my flights last week. The 763 with business seats which are classified as First for domestic US flights are miles better than either the 757 leather or cloth First seats. You also get a Samsung tablet to use for IFE on the 763 which is very good.
AA use their 763 planes from DFW to HNL and still fly a daily 763 LAX to MIA return flight - this was one of my flights last week. The 763 with business seats which are classified as First for domestic US flights are miles better than either the 757 leather or cloth First seats. You also get a Samsung tablet to use for IFE on the 763 which is very good.
Have just re-checked. BA MMB says AA31 on Saturday 28th november as 767. AA.com confirms that:
American Airlines
31
Los Angeles (LAX)
29 November 2014 08:05 AM
Travel Time : 6 h 5 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : 2B , 2A
Honolulu (HNL)
29 November 2014 12:10 PM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : 763
So, though I know that changes can happen again, it looks like we'll be on a 763 to HNL from LAX.
on the 757, I agree with you that the brown/grey leather seats are more comfy than the blue ('newer') ones though when I made such statements (upthread with pics of the various domestic F seats, not everyone agreed with me).
Oct 2, 2014, 2:39 am
#4359
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,811
757s are a pig to fly in, and actually I now really dislike the leather beige version, it's not good on the back and the seat width is too wide to be useful, and I'm quite tubby. So give me the cloth version any day, but never the bulkhead seat if wanting to sleep, both types are too cramped. US airways actually have a more comfortable seat, in my view, but typically no power (I need to work on my PC on that sector), and the food/serviice isn't good. But the 763s, even being the old version, is definitely a welcome relief when I see it on the schedule. However don't count your chickens.....
Oct 2, 2014, 2:54 am
#4360
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Programs: BA CCR/GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,483
757s are a pig to fly in, and actually I now really dislike the leather beige version, it's not good on the back and the seat width is too wide to be useful, and I'm quite tubby. So give me the cloth version any day, but never the bulkhead seat if wanting to sleep, both types are too cramped. US airways actually have a more comfortable seat, in my view, but typically no power (I need to work on my PC on that sector), and the food/service isn't good. But the 763s, even being the old version, is definitely a welcome relief when I see it on the schedule. However don't count your chickens.....
Oct 2, 2014, 3:04 am
#4361
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
So if you had to choose a pot-luck plane (which you wouldn't, as you'd have it all planned) between US Airways from PHX - HNL or AA from LAX - HNL, which would you go for? I've priced up the TP run that diamond club freeloader suggested (DUB - HNL) but have never flown US. Unfortunately it's not available until 1 July next year, but 4th July in HNL may be nice!
Also look at exCPH beyond 1 July 2015 if you haven't already done so, you may find it is cheaper than exDUB with some prices noted here. The advantage of DUB though is that there is going to be a LCY service so you can do same day DUB-LCY-JFK to connect on to BA1 in the morning. For exCPH you will need to come across from CPH the day before and pick up BA1 in the morning after a night at home.
And finally, I am on BA1 on 2 July 2015 so you may wish to join/avoid that flight depending on your preferences
Last edited by KARFA; Oct 2, 2014 at 3:10 am
Oct 2, 2014, 3:33 am
#4362
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 995
ok, so I didn't just 'believe' it but that's what recent emails from BA and AA told me when they changed their schedules. our MIA - LAX flight got moved 45 mins earlier (and onto 738 rather than 763 though I know - as you say - there's still a daily 763 rotation) and our LAX HNL got changed by 5 mins and when I logged on to check seats, it was a 763.
Have just re-checked. BA MMB says AA31 on Saturday 28th november as 767. AA.com confirms that:
American Airlines
31
Los Angeles (LAX)
29 November 2014 08:05 AM
Travel Time : 6 h 5 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : 2B , 2A
Honolulu (HNL)
29 November 2014 12:10 PM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : 763
So, though I know that changes can happen again, it looks like we'll be on a 763 to HNL from LAX.
on the 757, I agree with you that the brown/grey leather seats are more comfy than the blue ('newer') ones though when I made such statements (upthread with pics of the various domestic F seats, not everyone agreed with me).
Have just re-checked. BA MMB says AA31 on Saturday 28th november as 767. AA.com confirms that:
American Airlines
31
Los Angeles (LAX)
29 November 2014 08:05 AM
Travel Time : 6 h 5 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : 2B , 2A
Honolulu (HNL)
29 November 2014 12:10 PM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : 763
So, though I know that changes can happen again, it looks like we'll be on a 763 to HNL from LAX.
on the 757, I agree with you that the brown/grey leather seats are more comfy than the blue ('newer') ones though when I made such statements (upthread with pics of the various domestic F seats, not everyone agreed with me).
I wonder if there is something on in HNL over that period as they do not normally run a 763 to HNL from LAX. If they continue to offer the 763 to HNL then I would take this plane to HNL in preference to taking a direct 757 to OGG or KOA. The connecting flight on Hawaiian 717 is quite short and frequent.
Oct 2, 2014, 3:34 am
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757s are a pig to fly in, and actually I now really dislike the leather beige version, it's not good on the back and the seat width is too wide to be useful, and I'm quite tubby. So give me the cloth version any day, but never the bulkhead seat if wanting to sleep, both types are too cramped.
Oct 2, 2014, 3:46 am
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There are several advantages going AA from LA to Hawaii.
1. You can use the AA Flagship lounge at LAX which is miles better than the US lounge at PHX.
2. The flight time is appreciably shorter from LAX than it is from PHX.
3. There are many more flights from LAX to various Hawaiian islands than from PHX so if something goes wrong you have more options, plus the return flights back to PHX on US tend to be overnight which are not nice. If in HNL I always fly back on AA270 which is a great flight for being on time as the plane overnights in HNL plus it is often early at LAX.
4. I have not flown US on this route yet but I have heard from many sources that the in flight service sucks, the food is worse than AA (which has got worse recently) the First seats are worse than AA First (although c-w-s seems to disagree).
5. Whenever I have priced up using US from AA.com for some reason the US flight option seemed to be more expensive.
1. You can use the AA Flagship lounge at LAX which is miles better than the US lounge at PHX.
2. The flight time is appreciably shorter from LAX than it is from PHX.
3. There are many more flights from LAX to various Hawaiian islands than from PHX so if something goes wrong you have more options, plus the return flights back to PHX on US tend to be overnight which are not nice. If in HNL I always fly back on AA270 which is a great flight for being on time as the plane overnights in HNL plus it is often early at LAX.
4. I have not flown US on this route yet but I have heard from many sources that the in flight service sucks, the food is worse than AA (which has got worse recently) the First seats are worse than AA First (although c-w-s seems to disagree).
5. Whenever I have priced up using US from AA.com for some reason the US flight option seemed to be more expensive.
Oct 2, 2014, 4:40 am
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On the other hand, PHX is a vastly better place to transfer between flights. LAX has been digging up its runway and apron of T4 since I was a child (or so it seems) and the LAX gate handling - never its strong point - can be tiresome. Also AA's crews have a seniority system with knobs on it for HNL, whereas US crews don't have such an embedded set of crews, so you do get some that are not entirely cynical about life.
In other words for a one-off a strong recommendation for AA, on the proviso that it's not a First experience (I'd much rather go Club Europe, if the winds run against you it's 6 hours to get to HNL). If fate puts you on US, then so long as you understand the limitations on food, service, power, IFE, then it's still a valid option since the seat is no worse than AA's 757 and can be an improvement in some respects.
I'd also point out that if you're doing a Trans Atlantic, a Trans Continental and a part Trans Pacific in one day you need to be quite a good flyer to cope with it all! I have had practice on this over the years, but it's still quite knackering. One trip last year I had bad turbulence on all 3 sectors and I did feel I had been thoroughly through the wringer by the time I got to Waikiki!