Jan 1, 2014, 5:11 am
Last edit by: Prospero
Welcome to the thread—but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
£1.51/TP | £1817 | 1200TPs | BRU-LHR-BOS-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | JimEddie | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
Notes
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.- from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £804, LAX - £1149, HNL - £1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £1344, LAX - £1367, HNL - £1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
- BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
- Tickets issued on non-BA stock
Notes
- The ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets.
- Some TP runs can be booked online at aa.com. Be sure to use the Sort by schedule option in order to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
- A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here.
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
BA Tier Point runs | 2014 master thread
Oct 1, 2014, 9:00 am
#4336
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Find the exact routing and flight numbers you want using ITA Matrix, then call up BA or AA and quote them to the agent over the phone. You might also need to give them the fare codes/buckets to get it to price up correctly.
Oct 1, 2014, 9:06 am
#4337
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If you just want a price then I would suggest getting it off itamatrix or aa.com. I don't see the sense in calling ba just to get a price, and I think your opportunity to keep them on the phone for several hours whilst you play about with different routings and timings is limited - this is the advantage of the online sites. When I go to book though either book on aa.com or call ba.
Oct 1, 2014, 12:16 pm
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Oct 1, 2014, 12:26 pm
#4339
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Yes, in the sense that by selecting 1 or fewer connections it will list JFK-LAX-HNL, and JFK-PHX-HNL (more TPs as noted by onobond) and other connections for getting between JFK and HNL. So you could see where you want to connect based on timings, TPs and any other factor which is important to you.
Same with itamatrix, although there you can specify in the routing codes specifically where you want to connect if you have already decided that.
Same with itamatrix, although there you can specify in the routing codes specifically where you want to connect if you have already decided that.
Oct 1, 2014, 12:59 pm
#4340
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 997
I have just returned from a 1740 Tier point run which included several AA trans-continentals plus a Hawaiian return leg. I fly to Hawaii quite often and know all the airports well.
If you do a Hawaiian leg from LAX on AA then you will be flying on an AA757 as this is the only plane they fly from LAX to the Hawaiian airports(HNL,LIH,KOA,OGG). The AA757 is undoubtedly the worst plane to fly AA First on.
All the 757s are now quite old and are pretty shabby inside, if you are lucky you will get the beige leather First seats which are marginally more comfortable than the dreaded cloth seats. We groaned when we saw on boarding our flight to OGG at LAX last week when we saw the cloth seats and unfortunately we had the same cloth seats on the way back from OGG three days later. After about an hour and half of sitting in these seats your backside will ache as they are so hard.
The IFE on the AA757 consists of a drop down CRT monitor above the centre section and generally they show one film plus several popular TV shows.
Food used to be good on the Hawaiian leg with nice table cloths and an orchid plus Hawaiian themed meals - AA have been engaging in "enhancements" and the tablecloth has gone together with the orchid. Food is now canteen quality at best.
By contrast, I did a back to back trans-continental from LAX to DCA on one of AA new 737s. Seats very comfortable, IFE is great with lots of films, TV series etc and the food was acceptable
If you do a Hawaiian leg from LAX on AA then you will be flying on an AA757 as this is the only plane they fly from LAX to the Hawaiian airports(HNL,LIH,KOA,OGG). The AA757 is undoubtedly the worst plane to fly AA First on.
All the 757s are now quite old and are pretty shabby inside, if you are lucky you will get the beige leather First seats which are marginally more comfortable than the dreaded cloth seats. We groaned when we saw on boarding our flight to OGG at LAX last week when we saw the cloth seats and unfortunately we had the same cloth seats on the way back from OGG three days later. After about an hour and half of sitting in these seats your backside will ache as they are so hard.
The IFE on the AA757 consists of a drop down CRT monitor above the centre section and generally they show one film plus several popular TV shows.
Food used to be good on the Hawaiian leg with nice table cloths and an orchid plus Hawaiian themed meals - AA have been engaging in "enhancements" and the tablecloth has gone together with the orchid. Food is now canteen quality at best.
By contrast, I did a back to back trans-continental from LAX to DCA on one of AA new 737s. Seats very comfortable, IFE is great with lots of films, TV series etc and the food was acceptable
Oct 1, 2014, 1:16 pm
#4341
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I have just returned from a 1740 Tier point run which included several AA trans-continentals plus a Hawaiian return leg. I fly to Hawaii quite often and know all the airports well.
If you do a Hawaiian leg from LAX on AA then you will be flying on an AA757 as this is the only plane they fly from LAX to the Hawaiian airports(HNL,LIH,KOA,OGG). The AA757 is undoubtedly the worst plane to fly AA First on.
All the 757s are now quite old and are pretty shabby inside, if you are lucky you will get the beige leather First seats which are marginally more comfortable than the dreaded cloth seats. We groaned when we saw on boarding our flight to OGG at LAX last week when we saw the cloth seats and unfortunately we had the same cloth seats on the way back from OGG three days later. After about an hour and half of sitting in these seats your backside will ache as they are so hard.
The IFE on the AA757 consists of a drop down CRT monitor above the centre section and generally they show one film plus several popular TV shows.
Food used to be good on the Hawaiian leg with nice table cloths and an orchid plus Hawaiian themed meals - AA have been engaging in "enhancements" and the tablecloth has gone together with the orchid. Food is now canteen quality at best.
By contrast, I did a back to back trans-continental from LAX to DCA on one of AA new 737s. Seats very comfortable, IFE is great with lots of films, TV series etc and the food was acceptable
If you do a Hawaiian leg from LAX on AA then you will be flying on an AA757 as this is the only plane they fly from LAX to the Hawaiian airports(HNL,LIH,KOA,OGG). The AA757 is undoubtedly the worst plane to fly AA First on.
All the 757s are now quite old and are pretty shabby inside, if you are lucky you will get the beige leather First seats which are marginally more comfortable than the dreaded cloth seats. We groaned when we saw on boarding our flight to OGG at LAX last week when we saw the cloth seats and unfortunately we had the same cloth seats on the way back from OGG three days later. After about an hour and half of sitting in these seats your backside will ache as they are so hard.
The IFE on the AA757 consists of a drop down CRT monitor above the centre section and generally they show one film plus several popular TV shows.
Food used to be good on the Hawaiian leg with nice table cloths and an orchid plus Hawaiian themed meals - AA have been engaging in "enhancements" and the tablecloth has gone together with the orchid. Food is now canteen quality at best.
By contrast, I did a back to back trans-continental from LAX to DCA on one of AA new 737s. Seats very comfortable, IFE is great with lots of films, TV series etc and the food was acceptable
Oct 1, 2014, 1:19 pm
#4342
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 997
Yes I did research the US option out of PHX to either KOA or HNL but I did come across the view that US First on the 757 is even worse than AAs and given the flight is 6 hour plus I figured I would duck the pleasure.
Oct 1, 2014, 1:23 pm
#4343
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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Not sure if this might be useful for anyone here. Check my TP math, but it appears to be 1,360 TP for about 1,112 GBP. No visa is needed for ASU for UK and EU passports. You can also sub SAN for PHX if you want to avoid US metal or want an overnight in SAN.
Itinerary
Honolulu (HNL) to Asuncion (ASU) - Mon, Jan 26
Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 270 Dep: 8:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in LAX 3h 55m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Phoenix (PHX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 3185 Dep: 7:40PM Arr: 9:58PM 1h 18m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in PHX 0h 37m
Phoenix (PHX) to New York (JFK) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 632 Dep: 10:35PM Arr: 5:04AM 4h 29m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in JFK Tue, Jan 27 6h 1m
New York (JFK) to Miami (MIA) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 1085 Dep: 11:05AM Arr: 2:09PM 3h 4m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in MIA 9h 50m
Miami (MIA) to Asuncion (ASU) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 217 Dep: 11:59PM Arr: 10:06AM 8h 7m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Wed, Jan 28
Asuncion (ASU) to Honolulu (HNL) - Wed, Feb 4
Asuncion (ASU) to Miami (MIA) - Wed, Feb 4
American Airlines Inc. 218 Dep: 10:25PM Arr: 4:33AM 8h 8m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Layover in MIA Thu, Feb 5 2h 37m
Miami (MIA) to New York (JFK) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 244 Dep: 7:10AM Arr: 9:54AM 2h 44m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in JFK 0h 36m
New York (JFK) to Phoenix (PHX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 679 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 2:09PM 5h 39m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in PHX 3h 6m
Phoenix (PHX) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 3127 Dep: 5:15PM Arr: 5:39PM 1h 24m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in LAX 0h 46m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 267 Dep: 6:25PM Arr: 10:30PM 6h 5m Boeing 757 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,798.10
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,798.10
Honolulu (HNL) to Asuncion (ASU) - Mon, Jan 26
Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 270 Dep: 8:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in LAX 3h 55m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Phoenix (PHX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 3185 Dep: 7:40PM Arr: 9:58PM 1h 18m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in PHX 0h 37m
Phoenix (PHX) to New York (JFK) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 632 Dep: 10:35PM Arr: 5:04AM 4h 29m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in JFK Tue, Jan 27 6h 1m
New York (JFK) to Miami (MIA) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 1085 Dep: 11:05AM Arr: 2:09PM 3h 4m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in MIA 9h 50m
Miami (MIA) to Asuncion (ASU) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 217 Dep: 11:59PM Arr: 10:06AM 8h 7m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Wed, Jan 28
Asuncion (ASU) to Honolulu (HNL) - Wed, Feb 4
Asuncion (ASU) to Miami (MIA) - Wed, Feb 4
American Airlines Inc. 218 Dep: 10:25PM Arr: 4:33AM 8h 8m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Layover in MIA Thu, Feb 5 2h 37m
Miami (MIA) to New York (JFK) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 244 Dep: 7:10AM Arr: 9:54AM 2h 44m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in JFK 0h 36m
New York (JFK) to Phoenix (PHX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 679 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 2:09PM 5h 39m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in PHX 3h 6m
Phoenix (PHX) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 3127 Dep: 5:15PM Arr: 5:39PM 1h 24m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in LAX 0h 46m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 267 Dep: 6:25PM Arr: 10:30PM 6h 5m Boeing 757 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,798.10
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,798.10
Oct 1, 2014, 1:26 pm
#4344
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This was all a lot easier when the AA network was a known quantity, you could safely put in BRU-BOS knowing that it had to be via LHR and BOS-HNL had to be via LAX but since everyone just enters flights from further up the thread somewhere knowledge of the network plays little part in how they construct their routing
Oct 1, 2014, 1:30 pm
#4345
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Location: Wild Wiltshire
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I had no option but to go via PHX to ANC and it was grim, if Alaska hadnt been such an amazing place I would be happy to never fly US again
Oct 1, 2014, 1:54 pm
#4346
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 12
ITA price vs Airline website
Hello
I found the following on the ITA matrix
BRU-DOH-BKK-DOH-BRU
Qatar airways
All in I class
Out: 03/10/14
Rtn: 05/10/14
Price was 1447gbp, at 520TP it looks like a good TP run.
I entered the exact flights into the Qatar website and the price is circa 2100gbp.
Is there a lag in the ITA software or could this fare be booked over the phone?
Thanks
I found the following on the ITA matrix
BRU-DOH-BKK-DOH-BRU
Qatar airways
All in I class
Out: 03/10/14
Rtn: 05/10/14
Price was 1447gbp, at 520TP it looks like a good TP run.
I entered the exact flights into the Qatar website and the price is circa 2100gbp.
Is there a lag in the ITA software or could this fare be booked over the phone?
Thanks
Oct 1, 2014, 2:24 pm
#4347
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
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[QUOTE=scillyisles;23610818]I have just returned from a 1740 Tier point run which included several AA trans-continentals plus a Hawaiian return leg. I fly to Hawaii quite often and know all the airports well.
If you do a Hawaiian leg from LAX on AA then you will be flying on an AA757 as this is the only plane they fly from LAX to the Hawaiian airports(HNL,LIH,KOA,OGG). The AA757 is undoubtedly the worst plane to fly AA First on.
All the 757s are now quite old and are pretty shabby inside, if you are lucky you will get the beige leather First seats which are marginally more comfortable than the dreaded cloth seats. We groaned when we saw on boarding our flight to OGG at LAX last week when we saw the cloth seats and unfortunately we had the same cloth seats on the way back from OGG three days later. After about an hour and half of sitting in these seats your backside will ache as they are so hard.
The IFE on the AA757 consists of a drop down CRT monitor above the centre section and generally they show one film plus several popular TV shows.
Food used to be good on the Hawaiian leg with nice table cloths and an orchid plus Hawaiian themed meals - AA have been engaging in "enhancements" and the tablecloth has gone together with the orchid. Food is now canteen quality at best.
By contrast, I did a back to back trans-continental from LAX to DCA on one of AA new 737s. Seats very comfortable, IFE is great with lots of films, TV series etc and the food was acceptable[/QUOTE
I believe there is one 763 LAX HNL rotation a day. We "lost" the 763 in MIA LAX in November but "gained" it on LAX HNL.
Will also be doing US 757 and 321 for first time on way back via PHX so better brace ourselves.....
If you do a Hawaiian leg from LAX on AA then you will be flying on an AA757 as this is the only plane they fly from LAX to the Hawaiian airports(HNL,LIH,KOA,OGG). The AA757 is undoubtedly the worst plane to fly AA First on.
All the 757s are now quite old and are pretty shabby inside, if you are lucky you will get the beige leather First seats which are marginally more comfortable than the dreaded cloth seats. We groaned when we saw on boarding our flight to OGG at LAX last week when we saw the cloth seats and unfortunately we had the same cloth seats on the way back from OGG three days later. After about an hour and half of sitting in these seats your backside will ache as they are so hard.
The IFE on the AA757 consists of a drop down CRT monitor above the centre section and generally they show one film plus several popular TV shows.
Food used to be good on the Hawaiian leg with nice table cloths and an orchid plus Hawaiian themed meals - AA have been engaging in "enhancements" and the tablecloth has gone together with the orchid. Food is now canteen quality at best.
By contrast, I did a back to back trans-continental from LAX to DCA on one of AA new 737s. Seats very comfortable, IFE is great with lots of films, TV series etc and the food was acceptable[/QUOTE
I believe there is one 763 LAX HNL rotation a day. We "lost" the 763 in MIA LAX in November but "gained" it on LAX HNL.
Will also be doing US 757 and 321 for first time on way back via PHX so better brace ourselves.....
Oct 1, 2014, 2:26 pm
#4348
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Not sure if this might be useful for anyone here. Check my TP math, but it appears to be 1,360 TP for about 1,112 GBP. No visa is needed for ASU for UK and EU passports. You can also sub SAN for PHX if you want to avoid US metal or want an overnight in SAN.
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Itinerary
Honolulu (HNL) to Asuncion (ASU) - Mon, Jan 26
Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 270 Dep: 8:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in LAX 3h 55m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Phoenix (PHX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 3185 Dep: 7:40PM Arr: 9:58PM 1h 18m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in PHX 0h 37m
Phoenix (PHX) to New York (JFK) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 632 Dep: 10:35PM Arr: 5:04AM 4h 29m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in JFK Tue, Jan 27 6h 1m
New York (JFK) to Miami (MIA) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 1085 Dep: 11:05AM Arr: 2:09PM 3h 4m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in MIA 9h 50m
Miami (MIA) to Asuncion (ASU) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 217 Dep: 11:59PM Arr: 10:06AM 8h 7m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Wed, Jan 28
Asuncion (ASU) to Honolulu (HNL) - Wed, Feb 4
Asuncion (ASU) to Miami (MIA) - Wed, Feb 4
American Airlines Inc. 218 Dep: 10:25PM Arr: 4:33AM 8h 8m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Layover in MIA Thu, Feb 5 2h 37m
Miami (MIA) to New York (JFK) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 244 Dep: 7:10AM Arr: 9:54AM 2h 44m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in JFK 0h 36m
New York (JFK) to Phoenix (PHX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 679 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 2:09PM 5h 39m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in PHX 3h 6m
Phoenix (PHX) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 3127 Dep: 5:15PM Arr: 5:39PM 1h 24m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in LAX 0h 46m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 267 Dep: 6:25PM Arr: 10:30PM 6h 5m Boeing 757 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,798.10
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,798.10
Quote:
Itinerary
Honolulu (HNL) to Asuncion (ASU) - Mon, Jan 26
Honolulu (HNL) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 270 Dep: 8:20AM Arr: 3:45PM 5h 25m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in LAX 3h 55m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Phoenix (PHX) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 3185 Dep: 7:40PM Arr: 9:58PM 1h 18m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in PHX 0h 37m
Phoenix (PHX) to New York (JFK) - Mon, Jan 26
American Airlines Inc. 632 Dep: 10:35PM Arr: 5:04AM 4h 29m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in JFK Tue, Jan 27 6h 1m
New York (JFK) to Miami (MIA) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 1085 Dep: 11:05AM Arr: 2:09PM 3h 4m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in MIA 9h 50m
Miami (MIA) to Asuncion (ASU) - Tue, Jan 27
American Airlines Inc. 217 Dep: 11:59PM Arr: 10:06AM 8h 7m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Wed, Jan 28
Asuncion (ASU) to Honolulu (HNL) - Wed, Feb 4
Asuncion (ASU) to Miami (MIA) - Wed, Feb 4
American Airlines Inc. 218 Dep: 10:25PM Arr: 4:33AM 8h 8m Boeing 757 Business (I)
Layover in MIA Thu, Feb 5 2h 37m
Miami (MIA) to New York (JFK) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 244 Dep: 7:10AM Arr: 9:54AM 2h 44m Boeing 757 First (A)
Layover in JFK 0h 36m
New York (JFK) to Phoenix (PHX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 679 Dep: 10:30AM Arr: 2:09PM 5h 39m Airbus A321 First (A)
OPERATED BY US AIRWAYS, INC. Layover in PHX 3h 6m
Phoenix (PHX) to Los Angeles (LAX) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 3127 Dep: 5:15PM Arr: 5:39PM 1h 24m Canadair RJ 700 First (A)
OPERATED BY ENVOY AIR AS AMERICAN EAGLE Layover in LAX 0h 46m
Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL) - Thu, Feb 5
American Airlines Inc. 267 Dep: 6:25PM Arr: 10:30PM 6h 5m Boeing 757 First (A)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $1,798.10
Total cost for 1 passenger $1,798.10
Did you find wide availability in terms of dates?
Oct 1, 2014, 2:31 pm
#4349
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Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 43,028
Hello
I found the following on the ITA matrix
BRU-DOH-BKK-DOH-BRU
Qatar airways
All in I class
Out: 03/10/14
Rtn: 05/10/14
Price was 1447gbp, at 520TP it looks like a good TP run.
I entered the exact flights into the Qatar website and the price is circa 2100gbp.
Is there a lag in the ITA software or could this fare be booked over the phone?
Thanks
I found the following on the ITA matrix
BRU-DOH-BKK-DOH-BRU
Qatar airways
All in I class
Out: 03/10/14
Rtn: 05/10/14
Price was 1447gbp, at 520TP it looks like a good TP run.
I entered the exact flights into the Qatar website and the price is circa 2100gbp.
Is there a lag in the ITA software or could this fare be booked over the phone?
Thanks