School Hols - T5 lounge dragons baring teeth
Aug 1, 2013, 12:11 pm
#46
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Thanks for a great post, VC10 Boy.
Aug 1, 2013, 12:13 pm
#47
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Aug 1, 2013, 12:54 pm
#48
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The additional guest rule does not apply to the CCR so only one guest is allowed. Considering there are less than 500 CCR card holders apparently and these are typically members who bring a lot of revenue BAs way, extending the 2 guests rule to the CCR as well would be welcome and I think reasonable. Not sure it would have a significant impact on the loads in the lounge and not allowing it is a bit stingy. I think Premiers are allowed 2 in both CCR and the arrivals lounge.
I'd say no to that as a CCR card holder.
Aug 1, 2013, 1:54 pm
#49
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GGLs are allowed one extra guest above GCH so 2 guests in Flounge and 1 in arrivals lounge.
The additional guest rule does not apply to the CCR so only one guest is allowed. Considering there are less than 500 CCR card holders apparently and these are typically members who bring a lot of revenue BAs way, extending the 2 guests rule to the CCR as well would be welcome and I think reasonable.
The additional guest rule does not apply to the CCR so only one guest is allowed. Considering there are less than 500 CCR card holders apparently and these are typically members who bring a lot of revenue BAs way, extending the 2 guests rule to the CCR as well would be welcome and I think reasonable.
Are you saying BA have changed the rules, or that they haven't ... but should?
Aug 1, 2013, 2:36 pm
#50
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I think it would be very simple for BA to issue say 3-5 extra guest single use cards (valid traveling BA only and BA lounges) that we GCH etc could decide when to use when traveling with family. Would end this issue and make sure the lounge is not overrun. The GCH can then decide which family trips to use.
Could even make it valid just for GC.
Could even make it valid just for GC.
Aug 1, 2013, 5:25 pm
#51
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I hear from within that lounges are heaving currently due to holidays... One would think it would be the opposite, but it does seem like many golds do fly during holiday and bring guests (which I presume is the cause for lounges being extra busy)
Aug 1, 2013, 6:08 pm
#52
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I had my first CCR experience yesterday and was pleased that it wasn't heaving (I was there from 10.00-12.00). No celebs in sight either at that time!
Aug 1, 2013, 10:00 pm
#53
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I don't think there's any harm in asking as long as you're polite about it. The important thing is to expect refusal and take it with good grace if it happens.
Now is the lounge attendant being rude when she said 'enjoy the shops', it's possible (and that's the way it sounded to the OP), but she might not have intended it to sound that way. Some people actually like shopping.
Sometimes people say things that may sound rude, but it wasn't intended that way.
Now is the lounge attendant being rude when she said 'enjoy the shops', it's possible (and that's the way it sounded to the OP), but she might not have intended it to sound that way. Some people actually like shopping.
Sometimes people say things that may sound rude, but it wasn't intended that way.
Actually if some posters / readers lived by that creed, the forums could be more fun?
Aug 1, 2013, 11:13 pm
#54
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I don't want to get into a detailed story, suffices to say the last time a lounge vulture tried to give me some condescending gratuitous advise, I did escalate the situation by calling her supervisor and to my complete satisfaction, left the vulture seething and in a frustrated huff.
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Aug 1, 2013, 11:21 pm
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The vultures need to be de-fanged. They are free to apply the rules correctly and uniformly, but they have no business giving gratuitous advise.
I don't want to get into a detailed story, suffices to say the last time a lounge vulture tried to give me some condescending gratuitous advise, I did escalate the situation by calling her supervisor and to my complete satisfaction, left the vulture seething and in a frustrated huff.
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When did the lounge dragons get upgraded to vultures?
Originally Posted by WhitePlains
I don't want to get into a detailed story, suffices to say the last time a lounge vulture tried to give me some condescending gratuitous advise, I did escalate the situation by calling her supervisor and to my complete satisfaction, left the vulture seething and in a frustrated huff.
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Aug 1, 2013, 11:45 pm
#56
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The vultures need to be de-fanged. They are free to apply the rules correctly and uniformly, but they have no business giving gratuitous advise.
I don't want to get into a detailed story, suffices to say the last time a lounge vulture tried to give me some condescending gratuitous advise, I did escalate the situation by calling her supervisor and to my complete satisfaction, left the vulture seething and in a frustrated huff.
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I fly beacuse I choose to, and to de-fang lounge vultures.
I don't want to get into a detailed story, suffices to say the last time a lounge vulture tried to give me some condescending gratuitous advise, I did escalate the situation by calling her supervisor and to my complete satisfaction, left the vulture seething and in a frustrated huff.
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I fly beacuse I choose to, and to de-fang lounge vultures.
Aug 2, 2013, 12:13 am
#57
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School Hols - T5 lounge dragons baring teeth
Perhaps BA could think out of the box on this... You are allowed to guest into the lounges as Silver and higher.... So every time you don't they give you a credit (perhaps even a voucher) which you can use either to guest extra members of you family in when going on the annual holiday or colleagues when you need that quick chat before a flight and touch base... They could even limit it to say 5 in the year....
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Aug 2, 2013, 12:48 am
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Perhaps BA could think out of the box on this... You are allowed to guest into the lounges as Silver and higher.... So every time you don't they give you a credit (perhaps even a voucher) which you can use either to guest extra members of you family in when going on the annual holiday or colleagues when you need that quick chat before a flight and touch base... They could even limit it to say 5 in the year....
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
I wonder how many of these people bringing the entire family actually paid for the tickets that gained them access in the first place? Let me explain. I am really concerned that, as a result of yet another conversation on board that these sorts of things are bait for the taxman. If taking yourself, and your family into Lounges such as F is not a "perk" I don't know what is. If it is part of your fare - so be it - but it does concern me.
Aug 2, 2013, 12:49 am
#59
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I suspect it may well have an impact actually, by virtue of CCR card holders being rather frequent flyers and the CCR not being very large. It needs a pretty strict capacity control. There also seem to be a lot of long-term stayers there (3+ hours) probably due to connection time so it really needs a strict capacity control to keep it a relatively tranquil place.
I'd say no to that as a CCR card holder.
I'd say no to that as a CCR card holder.
Some sophisticated software could probably be implemented though that would allow BA to know approximately how many people to expect in each lounge at any given hour on any given day and could apply a discriminatory rule at the entrance based on how busy the lounge is expected to be. It could even be taken a step further, sending a message to a CCR card holder telling her/him that on their trip tomorrow to NY they can bring in both travel companions due to low expected capacity. The same could apply to GCH in the F lounge and so forth. I can see how this could cause all kind of operational and customer relationship issues too but it's an idea...
Aug 2, 2013, 12:52 am
#60
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I was referring to the rule change allowing GGL card holders to bring in extra guest to the lounges in general (not the CCR)