How to book overnight connection ?
Jan 22, 2012, 9:19 am
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How to book overnight connection ?
I'ld like to book an overnight connection at LHR on an award ticket, instead of a stopover due to tax/fees reasons... is it possible to do? I figure it would be a call center call....
so here's the scenario...
I would like to book IST-LHR BA 0667 arriving at 1940 on October 13th, connecting to BA 293 LHR-IAD departing 1710 on October 14th...
So if I book this as a stopover, which I can do online it's about 2K in fees (in F/CE).. If I can book this as a connection I would save about $500..
Anyone ever do anything similar?
thanks
FDW
so here's the scenario...
I would like to book IST-LHR BA 0667 arriving at 1940 on October 13th, connecting to BA 293 LHR-IAD departing 1710 on October 14th...
So if I book this as a stopover, which I can do online it's about 2K in fees (in F/CE).. If I can book this as a connection I would save about $500..
Anyone ever do anything similar?
thanks
FDW
Jan 22, 2012, 10:09 am
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I think you'll probably need to call the EC up I'm afraid.
Subsequent brainwave. Why do you need the itinerary to all be on one booking ? You could just book it all as singles - Redemption flights are fully flexible so you lose little by doing this. BA will through check your bags if that's what you're worried about
BAH
Subsequent brainwave. Why do you need the itinerary to all be on one booking ? You could just book it all as singles - Redemption flights are fully flexible so you lose little by doing this. BA will through check your bags if that's what you're worried about
BAH
so IAD-LHR-IST and return is $1500 in fees
if I book a stopover, it's about $2000 fees....
it's less than 23 hours, which I thought perhaps could count as a connection..
FDW
Jan 22, 2012, 10:12 am
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The rule is that any connection which is <24 hours is a connection and not a stopover so APD is not chargeable. The booking engine is pushing out the wrong fee but I can't think of any other way of making it work. Multi-city would do the job, but that only works for non-redemption bookings.
I do think you'll need to call I'm afraid. I think you should argue the offline booking fee is waived, because the stopover part of the BA website is churning out incorrect fees/surcharges.
BAH
Jan 22, 2012, 10:18 am
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UK connections dont count as far as I Remember.
With Avios bookings (such as a 2 for 1) it isnt possible to avoid the APD, I dont think time comes into it
With Avios bookings (such as a 2 for 1) it isnt possible to avoid the APD, I dont think time comes into it
Jan 22, 2012, 10:35 am
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Correct.
It has to be an international to international flight to and my reading is that it has to be a connecting flight so on one PNR
have a look at the HMRC rules (section 4)
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...ent#P339_20484
It has to be an international to international flight to and my reading is that it has to be a connecting flight so on one PNR
have a look at the HMRC rules (section 4)
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...ent#P339_20484
Jan 22, 2012, 10:58 am
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You can ignore my subsequent brainwave as I realised you'd be stung for the UK APD which is what you're trying to avoid.
The rule is that any connection which is <24 hours is a connection and not a stopover so APD is not chargeable. The booking engine is pushing out the wrong fee but I can't think of any other way of making it work. Multi-city would do the job, but that only works for non-redemption bookings.
I do think you'll need to call I'm afraid. I think you should argue the offline booking fee is waived, because the stopover part of the BA website is churning out incorrect fees/surcharges.
BAH
The rule is that any connection which is <24 hours is a connection and not a stopover so APD is not chargeable. The booking engine is pushing out the wrong fee but I can't think of any other way of making it work. Multi-city would do the job, but that only works for non-redemption bookings.
I do think you'll need to call I'm afraid. I think you should argue the offline booking fee is waived, because the stopover part of the BA website is churning out incorrect fees/surcharges.
BAH
<24 hours should count..
hopefully the call center will agree...
FDW
Jan 22, 2012, 11:09 am
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I just did a dummy IAD-IST on 3 Oct, returning 13 Oct, stopping over at LHR till 14 October, and it charges fees of £521 per person, the same as on a direct return.
Jan 22, 2012, 11:10 am
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Jan 22, 2012, 11:18 am
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