O/T - Emirates increase GLA service
Jan 10, 2012, 10:43 am
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I thought the current govt policy was that so long as you weren't flying to London then traffic rights weren't an issue....
Jan 10, 2012, 10:47 am
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But it increases capacity on the route. If you assume that everyone would have travelled anyway, then what that does is take those people now flying on the second plane per day away from the other carriers they would have flown on and onto EK. Not all of them would have been BA, but some of them would be.
It's also not just about DXB - it's about onward connections from DXB (and that is EK's strategy, much as KLM - act as a hubbing airline mainly).
It's also not just about DXB - it's about onward connections from DXB (and that is EK's strategy, much as KLM - act as a hubbing airline mainly).
We have used EK from GLA to Oz with good connections times, but not to DXB itself because of the poor timings in both directions.
Jan 10, 2012, 12:59 pm
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I'm amazed that BA haven't been blown away down to the Gulf as they persist with their ghastly G-ZZZZ 777's on many of the flights.
On the other hand - if it kicks off in the Straits of Hormuz any time soon, EK's birds will be like the Marie Celeste.
Jan 10, 2012, 1:32 pm
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It's also not just about DXB - it's about onward connections from DXB (and that is EK's strategy, much as KLM - act as a hubbing airline mainly). Afterall, GLA-DXB-SYD is less hassle than GLA-LHR-SIN/BKK-SYD and doing ultra long-haul some people will see fewer connections as preferential.
With the recent / imminent PIA pull out of GLA, there's presumably also some slack to take up there, too.
Jan 10, 2012, 2:29 pm
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BA will not be affected much by this news to be honest. While using EK is good for people who want to get to Australia quickly many people still like to stopover in the Far East so BA/QF will still be a popular choice.
Jan 10, 2012, 3:03 pm
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Jan 10, 2012, 3:11 pm
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Do they? I would have thought most people would have wanted to get down to OZ as quickly as possibly, with the exception of gap year students.
Jan 10, 2012, 3:18 pm
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However, my drivel above may be moot, for example if BA offer GLA/EDI-Oz fares at 20% lower than EK (not likely, but weirder things can happen)
Jan 10, 2012, 3:31 pm
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Unless you are tied in via the exec club or a corporate travel policy. It is very unlikely that people will choose BA and a connection via LHR over EK out of the regions to somewhere like SYD
It will be interesting to see how BA reacts to the growing presence of EK in the regions...
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Jan 10, 2012, 4:02 pm
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BA are surely still strong in the Middle and Far Eastern markets from LHR so I don't think they will be that concerned about the loss of some passengers from the regions to EK.
Obviously their share of the Australian market must have taken a hammering from the strong presence that EK have there....hence why BA will probably forget about serving SYD altogether.
Jan 10, 2012, 4:06 pm
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BA is going to take a right hammering on non corporate travel out of the regions.
Unless you are tied in via the exec club or a corporate travel policy. It is very unlikely that people will choose BA and a connection via LHR over EK out of the regions to somewhere like SYD
It will be interesting to see how BA reacts to the growing presence of EK in the regions...
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Unless you are tied in via the exec club or a corporate travel policy. It is very unlikely that people will choose BA and a connection via LHR over EK out of the regions to somewhere like SYD
It will be interesting to see how BA reacts to the growing presence of EK in the regions...
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The last time we went in 2006 the stopovers worked very well (HKG/SIN) and DXB is not my ideal place compared to other cities.
Certainly living in Edinburgh with the airport 20 minutes away I would probably still go with BA/QF as if we went with EK i'd still have to drive from my house to Glasgow on the M8 and over that dinosaur... The Kingston Bridge! Door to door for us it is about 80/90 minutes away so the EDI connection is far more favourable. YMMV.
I wonder what will be available 1st. BA POUG from the regions or the Trams
Jan 10, 2012, 4:10 pm
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So even if BA is concerned, there's not a lot it can do. It has no mandate from anyone to serve any port that can only be served at a loss.
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Jan 10, 2012, 4:15 pm
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Not so sure we would favour EK to Oz and would prefer BA/QF with a stopover on the way, there and back. Its far too long, for us anyhow, to do it all in one go.
The last time we went in 2006 the stopovers worked very well (HKG/SIN) and DXB is not my ideal place compared to other cities.
Certainly living in Edinburgh with the airport 20 minutes away I would probably still go with BA/QF as if we went with EK i'd still have to drive from my house to Glasgow on the M8 and over that dinosaur... The Kingston Bridge! Door to door for us it is about 80/90 minutes away so the EDI connection is far more favourable. YMMV.
I wonder what will be available 1st. BA POUG from the regions or the Trams
The last time we went in 2006 the stopovers worked very well (HKG/SIN) and DXB is not my ideal place compared to other cities.
Certainly living in Edinburgh with the airport 20 minutes away I would probably still go with BA/QF as if we went with EK i'd still have to drive from my house to Glasgow on the M8 and over that dinosaur... The Kingston Bridge! Door to door for us it is about 80/90 minutes away so the EDI connection is far more favourable. YMMV.
I wonder what will be available 1st. BA POUG from the regions or the Trams
I have friends from Birmingham, who now live in SYD. Even though I could have got them an upgrade on BA, they have always flown on EK out of BHK,as they don't want the hassle of driving to and from LHR.
You then add both sets of parents going out three times a year, plus a whole load of friends. In the old days, everyone would have gone down to LHR and flown out on BA. That is one example, multiply this a number of times and there is a major revenue loss going on which is ending up in EK pockets