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Old Jun 18, 2016, 7:31 am
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AS is a long standing BA partner and, as of 31st March 2021, a full member of oneworld. You can book AS flights using your Avios through BA: prior to AS joining oneworld this was only possible on the phone through your local service centre, but it is now possible to book online with some caveats, specifically that at this time (August 2022) it's not possible to retrieve the AS PNR via ba.com - the chat function on alaskaair.com is staffed by helpful and responsive agents though who can get your AS PNR issued quickly. You can book flights up to 330 days in advance.

It has been reported that flights operated by Skywest "Skywest operating as Alaska Airlines" for flights like SEA-SLO are not possible to book with Avios. The system may initially allow agents to grab inventory but then will send back an error message when going further even with the telephone booking.

Avios Cost
The cost should be in line with the normal BA reward price banding. To get an idea of what your flight may cost check the distance with the BAEC flight calculator or using gcmap, and then have a look at the avios banding here.

Note that all AS flights (just like any other non-BA flights) are priced at the peak avios rates. Also note that from 2 February 2016, redemption rates for travel on American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, and TAM will start at 7,500 Avios rather than 4,500 Avios, effectively pricing Distance Band 1 flights as Band 2.

If the flight includes a number of stops under the same flight number then the avios charge is for a non-stop flight from the departure point to the destination. For example, for Seattle to Juneau AS65 the service makes three stops enroute. However, the avios rate charged is as if it were non-stop Seattle to Juneau flight (7,500 avios) and not the avios total for four segments.

Taxes, Fees, and Charges
As with other non-BA reward bookings you need to pay the taxes, fees, and charges. You should be able to predict what this will be by having a look at the taxes, fees, and charges on the AS website or on itamatrix.

BA policy is to charge £15/US$25 for offline award tickets but there has been consistent and sustained reports for years of agents waiving fees. As recently as 1/2017, there have been confirmatory reports that the telephone fee has been consistently waived. When initially calling the call center let your first sentence be, "Can you help me with an Alaska booking that I cannot complete online." The agents have all proactively waived fees in every circumstance. If they do not, HUCA (hang up and call again - or ask supervisor to waive)

Can I Check Reward Availability Online?
You can attempt to make a booking on ba.com and this should at least show Alaska mainline routes. You can also check AA website and the AS website. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check MileSAAver availability not AAnytime availability. AA may be better to check as this should show partner reward availability.

Checked Bags?
AS charges for checked bags on all economy fares, however oneworld ruby & sapphire members are entitled to 2 free bags and emerald members to 3 free bags. Note that oneworld elite baggage allowance is only applied to the passenger with the elite status: 1 GCH and 3 blue members on the same booking only provides 3 bags free, not 12. See the baggage information here. Note that you can only add bags at OLCI, at the airport, or on the phone no earlier than 24 hrs before the flight. Baggage fees are also waived for Alaska Credit Card holders and up to 6 companions on the same booking.

Redemptions in First include 2 checked bags per passenger as the base entitlement.

oneworld Benefits?
AS joined oneworld on 31st March 2021: priority check-in, priority boarding, baggage allowance* and lounge access for passengers with status all apply per the normal oneworld/AS policies. Alaska's table is here.
(* see the Checked Bags question above for an important detail)

Does the 24 hour Cooling Off Period Apply?
Yes it does. However, you must cancel by phone - it is not possible to do it online. Miles are refunded immediately into your Avios account, taxes (if returned) just take a few days to be credited.

Can I Amend the Booking?
Yes, subject to fees and reward availability on the flight you want to move to. You need to do it on the phone. Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here.
Because of the fee structure of BA Avios - it is often beneficial to book two one ways instead of one roundtrip if you are unsure about either your departure or return dates.

Can I Cancel the Booking?
Yes you may subject to the usual fees here Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here. If the taxes, fees, and charges you paid were less than the cancellation fee due then you simply forfeit the taxes and fees paid and that serves as your effective cancellation fee. If taxes, fees, and charges you paid were more than the cancellation fee then you would pay the cancellation fee USD55 but get back your taxes in full as well as your miles. (Rather they debit USD55 from your taxes and fees and return to you the balance remaining to your form of payment.)

Can I SDC Same Day Confirm on an AS Avios Ticket?
Yes, AS Avios tickets are eligible for AS same day confirmed change benefits as detailed on the AS website. If AS agent tells you differently HUCA. But AS website should allow you to do this regardless.

Are AS Avios tickets upgradeable with cash?
Yes, AS Avios tickets can be upgraded by paying a fee at 24hr check in, "U" inventory allowance, space available. Please note upgraded U fare class tickets are not eligible for lounge access.

Do AS Elite Benefits apply to AS Avios tickets?
Yes, if you are AS MVP Gold for instance your AS Avios ticket is eligible for Complimentary Upgrades and as long as your AS FFN is in the reservation, you will be automatically added to the AS complimentary upgrade list (AS in 12/05/16 changed policy to allow complimentary upgrades to apply to award tickets - including Avios awards) Gold Guest Upgrades, however, have never been allowed to be applied to AS Avios tickets.

Can I book Virgin America flights now using avios?
As of 25 April 2018, Virgin America no longer exists as far as reservations systems are concerned. Former VX flights are now AS flights and can be booked with Avios.



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Old Jan 23, 2019, 10:34 am
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Can someone confirm whether BA Avios still treats AS domestic F as an international F product and thereby 3x the cost of economy?

Or has it changed similarly to AA's structure and is now only 2x?

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Old Jan 23, 2019, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by luv2ctheworld
Can someone confirm whether BA Avios still treats AS domestic F as an international F product and thereby 3x the cost of economy?

Or has it changed similarly to AA's structure and is now only 2x?

Thanks.
check Seths award tool...Avios Destinations by Price
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Old Jan 23, 2019, 12:58 pm
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That only lists Economy Avios pricing; it doesn't show First/Domestic First or Business (unless there's a setting somewhere that I'm not seeing).
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Old Jan 23, 2019, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by mrx900
check Seths award tool...Avios Destinations by Price
what’s the answer? Does it get charged at 3x or 2x?
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 4:48 am
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considering YVR to Kona during the summer using avios. Alaska site shows 35,000 miles + around $70 fees for return trip. How does this translate into calling BA and booking with avios? Will trip cost out at YVR to Seattle and then Seattle to YVR ie 4 legs that would cost out according to BA miles table? It is possible to drive to BLI down the road and cross the border and fly BLI to Seattle and then Seattle to Kona and return for the same miles on Alaska site (taxes lower as on the outbound you pay Canadian departure taxes etc ..taxes are $6 but add another $55 or so if departing YVR. Will be calling call center once it opens but your comments are appreciated. TU.
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Old Feb 23, 2019, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by testycal
considering YVR to Kona during the summer using avios. Alaska site shows 35,000 miles + around $70 fees for return trip. How does this translate into calling BA and booking with avios? Will trip cost out at YVR to Seattle and then Seattle to YVR ie 4 legs that would cost out according to BA miles table? It is possible to drive to BLI down the road and cross the border and fly BLI to Seattle and then Seattle to Kona and return for the same miles on Alaska site (taxes lower as on the outbound you pay Canadian departure taxes etc ..taxes are $6 but add another $55 or so if departing YVR. Will be calling call center once it opens but your comments are appreciated. TU.
A trip on BA: YVR-SEA-KOA or BLI-SEA-KOA will be the same amount of points, but will be a lot less in taxes ( it'll be ~$6 from BLI ) as it's a domestic flight. As each leg is separate on BA, think of each leg as ONE way. You could even do YVR-SEA-KOA-LAX-YVR for 40,000 points


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Old Feb 24, 2019, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by testycal
considering YVR to Kona during the summer using avios. Alaska site shows 35,000 miles + around $70 fees for return trip. How does this translate into calling BA and booking with avios? Will trip cost out at YVR to Seattle and then Seattle to YVR ie 4 legs that would cost out according to BA miles table? It is possible to drive to BLI down the road and cross the border and fly BLI to Seattle and then Seattle to Kona and return for the same miles on Alaska site (taxes lower as on the outbound you pay Canadian departure taxes etc ..taxes are $6 but add another $55 or so if departing YVR. Will be calling call center once it opens but your comments are appreciated. TU.
Note that AS offers a seasonal BLI-KOA nonstop, but I'm not sure what the seasonality is on that route (winter only? summer only?).

You could also take a bus or train between Vancouver and Seattle if you wanted to save the additional 7,500 Avios each way for the short BLI-SEA flight.
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Old Mar 12, 2019, 8:33 pm
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I originally posted this in the AS forum and was told I should try here instead.

Can I book an Alaska award flight from RNO-BKK using British Avios? I want to fly in Business but the flight is only on Alaska for the first segment. The rest is on either Cathay, Japan or Korean Airlines. I've been trying to find an answer to this but haven't had any luck.
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Old Mar 12, 2019, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Cliff358
I originally posted this in the AS forum and was told I should try here instead.

Can I book an Alaska award flight from RNO-BKK using British Avios? I want to fly in Business but the flight is only on Alaska for the first segment. The rest is on either Cathay, Japan or Korean Airlines. I've been trying to find an answer to this but haven't had any luck.
yes, but using Avios, you will have to pay for each segment....so you may want to call BA and check for the total amount of Avios......esp in business class, its going to be a lot. I'd use Seth's Award Search tool to find out exactly.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 12:51 pm
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Just called the BA to try and book a flight on Alaska between LAS and PAE, they have availability but she was unable to book for me as it was not showing up a price. Therefore she has had to sent a request to get it priced, has this ever happened to anyone else before? Is the fact that PAE is a new airport playing into the difficulty.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by mrx900
yes, but using Avios, you will have to pay for each segment....so you may want to call BA and check for the total amount of Avios......esp in business class, its going to be a lot. I'd use Seth's Award Search tool to find out exactly.
RNO-BKK-RNO roundtrip (via SEA and NRT/HKG) in Business Class should be available for 200,000 Avios + carrier charges and taxes if booked using the BAEC multi-partner redemption chart:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...e/public/en_us
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by OPENROAD
Is the fact that PAE is a new airport playing into the difficulty.
It's possible, although there are definitely fares filed by AS for LASPAE for BA to use to get a taxes, fees and charges quote.

Should just be the USD5.60AY tax per direction.
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 1:34 am
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How to add frequent flyer number to reservation?
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Old Mar 21, 2019, 12:41 pm
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you can send [email protected] or tweet them thru DM and they will add it fo ryou.
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Old Apr 4, 2019, 4:53 pm
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booked (on 24 hours window to cancel).....40,000 avios YVR to SEA to KOA and return and $75 CDN...should have been 25000 for SEA to KOA return and 9000 YVR SEA return but priced out as 40000 each. Any comments or suggestions to keep or toss? Uncertain why it went from 34000 to 40000

2 hours online to do this....almost Zero availability even Bellingham
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