Booking Alaska Airlines with Avios

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AS is a long standing BA partner and, as of 31st March 2021, a full member of oneworld. You can book AS flights using your Avios through BA: prior to AS joining oneworld this was only possible on the phone through your local service centre, but it is now possible to book online with some caveats, specifically that at this time (August 2022) it's not possible to retrieve the AS PNR via ba.com - the chat function on alaskaair.com is staffed by helpful and responsive agents though who can get your AS PNR issued quickly. You can book flights up to 330 days in advance.

It has been reported that flights operated by Skywest "Skywest operating as Alaska Airlines" for flights like SEA-SLO are not possible to book with Avios. The system may initially allow agents to grab inventory but then will send back an error message when going further even with the telephone booking.

Avios Cost
The cost should be in line with the normal BA reward price banding. To get an idea of what your flight may cost check the distance with the BAEC flight calculator or using gcmap, and then have a look at the avios banding here.

Note that all AS flights (just like any other non-BA flights) are priced at the peak avios rates. Also note that from 2 February 2016, redemption rates for travel on American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, and TAM will start at 7,500 Avios rather than 4,500 Avios, effectively pricing Distance Band 1 flights as Band 2.

If the flight includes a number of stops under the same flight number then the avios charge is for a non-stop flight from the departure point to the destination. For example, for Seattle to Juneau AS65 the service makes three stops enroute. However, the avios rate charged is as if it were non-stop Seattle to Juneau flight (7,500 avios) and not the avios total for four segments.

Taxes, Fees, and Charges
As with other non-BA reward bookings you need to pay the taxes, fees, and charges. You should be able to predict what this will be by having a look at the taxes, fees, and charges on the AS website or on itamatrix.

BA policy is to charge 15/US$25 for offline award tickets but there has been consistent and sustained reports for years of agents waiving fees. As recently as 1/2017, there have been confirmatory reports that the telephone fee has been consistently waived. When initially calling the call center let your first sentence be, "Can you help me with an Alaska booking that I cannot complete online." The agents have all proactively waived fees in every circumstance. If they do not, HUCA (hang up and call again - or ask supervisor to waive)

Can I Check Reward Availability Online?
You can attempt to make a booking on ba.com and this should at least show Alaska mainline routes. You can also check AA website and the AS website. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check MileSAAver availability not AAnytime availability. AA may be better to check as this should show partner reward availability.

Checked Bags?
AS charges for checked bags on all economy fares, however oneworld ruby & sapphire members are entitled to 2 free bags and emerald members to 3 free bags. Note that oneworld elite baggage allowance is only applied to the passenger with the elite status: 1 GCH and 3 blue members on the same booking only provides 3 bags free, not 12. See the baggage information here. Note that you can only add bags at OLCI, at the airport, or on the phone no earlier than 24 hrs before the flight. Baggage fees are also waived for Alaska Credit Card holders and up to 6 companions on the same booking.

Redemptions in First include 2 checked bags per passenger as the base entitlement.

oneworld Benefits?
AS joined oneworld on 31st March 2021: priority check-in, priority boarding, baggage allowance* and lounge access for passengers with status all apply per the normal oneworld/AS policies. Alaska's table is here.
(* see the Checked Bags question above for an important detail)

Does the 24 hour Cooling Off Period Apply?
Yes it does. However, you must cancel by phone - it is not possible to do it online. Miles are refunded immediately into your Avios account, taxes (if returned) just take a few days to be credited.

Can I Amend the Booking?
Yes, subject to fees and reward availability on the flight you want to move to. You need to do it on the phone. Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here.
Because of the fee structure of BA Avios - it is often beneficial to book two one ways instead of one roundtrip if you are unsure about either your departure or return dates.

Can I Cancel the Booking?
Yes you may subject to the usual fees here Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here. If the taxes, fees, and charges you paid were less than the cancellation fee due then you simply forfeit the taxes and fees paid and that serves as your effective cancellation fee. If taxes, fees, and charges you paid were more than the cancellation fee then you would pay the cancellation fee USD55 but get back your taxes in full as well as your miles. (Rather they debit USD55 from your taxes and fees and return to you the balance remaining to your form of payment.)

Can I SDC Same Day Confirm on an AS Avios Ticket?
Yes, AS Avios tickets are eligible for AS same day confirmed change benefits as detailed on the AS website. If AS agent tells you differently HUCA. But AS website should allow you to do this regardless.

Are AS Avios tickets upgradeable with cash?
Yes, AS Avios tickets can be upgraded by paying a fee at 24hr check in, "U" inventory allowance, space available. Please note upgraded U fare class tickets are not eligible for lounge access.

Do AS Elite Benefits apply to AS Avios tickets?
Yes, if you are AS MVP Gold for instance your AS Avios ticket is eligible for Complimentary Upgrades and as long as your AS FFN is in the reservation, you will be automatically added to the AS complimentary upgrade list (AS in 12/05/16 changed policy to allow complimentary upgrades to apply to award tickets - including Avios awards) Gold Guest Upgrades, however, have never been allowed to be applied to AS Avios tickets.

Can I book Virgin America flights now using avios?
As of 25 April 2018, Virgin America no longer exists as far as reservations systems are concerned. Former VX flights are now AS flights and can be booked with Avios.



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Old Nov 15, 11, 11:48 pm
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Booking Alaska Airlines with Avios

Hello!

Can I book AS flights using Avios? It doesn't seem like I can find AS availability on BA.com. Do I need to call the call center? Will they waive the fee?

Thank you!
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I have done it using BA miles but had to call. I had to go to Alaska's web site to check flight times and as far as I can remember there was no fee but a) I am gold and b) I was routing LHR > YVR > SEA.
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Old Nov 16, 11, 12:23 am
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Per BA call center rep 2 days ago 'Alaska Airlines availability will never show on the website as the aren't a Oneworld partner' - Of course AA added AS awards online last week...
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Old Nov 16, 11, 7:11 pm
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So why is it that we have to pay the 30Tax for AS bookings?
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Old Nov 18, 11, 11:06 am
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How many Avios does it take to fly from San Diego to Cabo? Great Circle Mapper shows it as 802 miles. Should I be able to find that information on the BA website?
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Old Nov 18, 11, 11:11 am
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You can book AS through your local service centre - you cannot current book online. I am working on a solution for you to retrieve pricing for this online - in the interim your local service centre will be able to provide this info for you

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Old Nov 18, 11, 12:04 pm
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Nicci, thank you very much.

I called and successfully booked. Here are the details for everyone's benefit:

AS award, SAN-SJD RT, 802 miles, coach, nonstop flight

If booked on AS:
35K miles RT, $77 fees

If booked on BA:
15K miles RT, $110 fees, $25 phone booking fee

Using BA avios saves 20K miles and costs $58 more per ticket.

I don't know these fees on AS, but was given these fees for Avios.
$65 to cancel or change dates on phone
$40 to cancel or change dates online

All in all, this is a sweet spot for Avios as long as I am firmly committed to my dates.
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Old Nov 18, 11, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiego1K View Post

All in all, this is a sweet spot for Avios as long as I am firmly committed to my dates.
Absolutley, it has opened up a whole new place to visit
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Old Nov 18, 11, 12:44 pm
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My dear daughter [a Blue ] flies BA to the US, and then links somewhere on to AS to go to KGPI [Glacier Park International Airport ] to go riding in Montana. Having looked at GPI on Google Earth, I can confirm it has some runway

Anyway, at this rate she may be Bronze ^

If, of course, in early middle age, she can actually manage the bookings.
A couple of months ago she successfully booked the wrong Hotel in Greater DC. Kids, eh?
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Old Nov 20, 11, 11:32 am
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You can book AS through your local service centre - you cannot current book online. I am working on a solution for you to retrieve pricing for this online - in the interim your local service centre will be able to provide this info for you

Regards

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Does anyone here know how to calculate the cost of awards without calling.

I called the UK BAEC to calculate an award from YVR to SFO and am convinced the pricing I was given was wrong.

I would need to connect as follows YVR-SEA-SFO... I was told this would be priced YVR-SEA @ 30k and then ANOTHER 35k for the SEA-SFO.

I'm pretty sure the agent used the one world chart (multiple carriers) to calculate but am not convinced this is the correct chart or the adding together of sectors in this way is correct either.
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Old Nov 20, 11, 12:41 pm
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You can book AS through your local service centre - you cannot current book online. I am working on a solution for you to retrieve pricing for this online - in the interim your local service centre will be able to provide this info for you

Regards

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Does anyone here know how to calculate the cost of awards without calling.

I called the UK BAEC to calculate an award from YVR to SFO and am convinced the pricing I was given was wrong.

I would need to connect as follows YVR-SEA-SFO... I was told this would be priced YVR-SEA @ 30k and then ANOTHER 35k for the SEA-SFO.

I'm pretty sure the agent used the one world chart (multiple carriers) to calculate but am not convinced this is the correct chart or the adding together of sectors in this way is correct either.
Assuming that standard Avios pricing applies to redemptions on AS, YVR-SEA should cost 4,500 Avios one way in Coach, and SEA-SFO should cost 7,500 Avios one way in Coach.

Of course, Amtrak is an option for either or both segments.
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Old Nov 21, 11, 12:47 am
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Assuming that standard Avios pricing applies to redemptions on AS, YVR-SEA should cost 4,500 Avios one way in Coach, and SEA-SFO should cost 7,500 Avios one way in Coach.

Of course, Amtrak is an option for either or both segments.
Thanks, but....

It's the definition of standard pricing I am trying to locate - there seems to be no table for non-Oneworld carriers and AS routes don't show in the calculator on BA.com.

I'm not aware that Avios can be redeemed on Amtrak - plus the single daily 0530 departure from Vancouver (arrival from 0430 for customs) makes the train an unatractive option.
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Assuming that standard Avios pricing applies to redemptions on AS, YVR-SEA should cost 4,500 Avios one way in Coach, and SEA-SFO should cost 7,500 Avios one way in Coach.

Of course, Amtrak is an option for either or both segments.
Thanks, but....

It's the definition of standard pricing I am trying to locate - there seems to be no table for non-Oneworld carriers and AS routes don't show in the calculator on BA.com.

I'm not aware that Avios can be redeemed on Amtrak - plus the single daily 0530 departure from Vancouver (arrival from 0430 for customs) makes the train an unatractive option.
No, you cannot redeem Avios for Amtrak travel; you would have to pay cash for Amtrak travel, unless you have CO or UA miles.

Based on post #7 in this thread, it appears that the regular, distance-based Avios redemption table applies to AS award bookings. Suggest you call BAEC and ask them to price just YVR-SEA as a one-way, and see what they come up with.
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Old Nov 23, 11, 6:30 am
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Based on post #7 in this thread, it appears that the regular, distance-based Avios redemption table applies to AS award bookings. Suggest you call BAEC and ask them to price just YVR-SEA as a one-way, and see what they come up with.
SEA-YVR is 4,500 OW, per BAEC agent. Unfortunately, I am still unable to book online, though both telephone and email agents say that it is possible.
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Old Nov 23, 11, 12:52 pm
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Would anyone have any idea what SEA-ANC would be in Avios?
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