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Old Jun 18, 2016, 7:31 am
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AS is a long standing BA partner and, as of 31st March 2021, a full member of oneworld. You can book AS flights using your Avios through BA: prior to AS joining oneworld this was only possible on the phone through your local service centre, but it is now possible to book online with some caveats, specifically that at this time (August 2022) it's not possible to retrieve the AS PNR via ba.com - the chat function on alaskaair.com is staffed by helpful and responsive agents though who can get your AS PNR issued quickly. You can book flights up to 330 days in advance.

It has been reported that flights operated by Skywest "Skywest operating as Alaska Airlines" for flights like SEA-SLO are not possible to book with Avios. The system may initially allow agents to grab inventory but then will send back an error message when going further even with the telephone booking.

Avios Cost
The cost should be in line with the normal BA reward price banding. To get an idea of what your flight may cost check the distance with the BAEC flight calculator or using gcmap, and then have a look at the avios banding here.

Note that all AS flights (just like any other non-BA flights) are priced at the peak avios rates. Also note that from 2 February 2016, redemption rates for travel on American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, and TAM will start at 7,500 Avios rather than 4,500 Avios, effectively pricing Distance Band 1 flights as Band 2.

If the flight includes a number of stops under the same flight number then the avios charge is for a non-stop flight from the departure point to the destination. For example, for Seattle to Juneau AS65 the service makes three stops enroute. However, the avios rate charged is as if it were non-stop Seattle to Juneau flight (7,500 avios) and not the avios total for four segments.

Taxes, Fees, and Charges
As with other non-BA reward bookings you need to pay the taxes, fees, and charges. You should be able to predict what this will be by having a look at the taxes, fees, and charges on the AS website or on itamatrix.

BA policy is to charge Ł15/US$25 for offline award tickets but there has been consistent and sustained reports for years of agents waiving fees. As recently as 1/2017, there have been confirmatory reports that the telephone fee has been consistently waived. When initially calling the call center let your first sentence be, "Can you help me with an Alaska booking that I cannot complete online." The agents have all proactively waived fees in every circumstance. If they do not, HUCA (hang up and call again - or ask supervisor to waive)

Can I Check Reward Availability Online?
You can attempt to make a booking on ba.com and this should at least show Alaska mainline routes. You can also check AA website and the AS website. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check MileSAAver availability not AAnytime availability. AA may be better to check as this should show partner reward availability.

Checked Bags?
AS charges for checked bags on all economy fares, however oneworld ruby & sapphire members are entitled to 2 free bags and emerald members to 3 free bags. Note that oneworld elite baggage allowance is only applied to the passenger with the elite status: 1 GCH and 3 blue members on the same booking only provides 3 bags free, not 12. See the baggage information here. Note that you can only add bags at OLCI, at the airport, or on the phone no earlier than 24 hrs before the flight. Baggage fees are also waived for Alaska Credit Card holders and up to 6 companions on the same booking.

Redemptions in First include 2 checked bags per passenger as the base entitlement.

oneworld Benefits?
AS joined oneworld on 31st March 2021: priority check-in, priority boarding, baggage allowance* and lounge access for passengers with status all apply per the normal oneworld/AS policies. Alaska's table is here.
(* see the Checked Bags question above for an important detail)

Does the 24 hour Cooling Off Period Apply?
Yes it does. However, you must cancel by phone - it is not possible to do it online. Miles are refunded immediately into your Avios account, taxes (if returned) just take a few days to be credited.

Can I Amend the Booking?
Yes, subject to fees and reward availability on the flight you want to move to. You need to do it on the phone. Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here.
Because of the fee structure of BA Avios - it is often beneficial to book two one ways instead of one roundtrip if you are unsure about either your departure or return dates.

Can I Cancel the Booking?
Yes you may subject to the usual fees here Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here. If the taxes, fees, and charges you paid were less than the cancellation fee due then you simply forfeit the taxes and fees paid and that serves as your effective cancellation fee. If taxes, fees, and charges you paid were more than the cancellation fee then you would pay the cancellation fee USD55 but get back your taxes in full as well as your miles. (Rather they debit USD55 from your taxes and fees and return to you the balance remaining to your form of payment.)

Can I SDC Same Day Confirm on an AS Avios Ticket?
Yes, AS Avios tickets are eligible for AS same day confirmed change benefits as detailed on the AS website. If AS agent tells you differently HUCA. But AS website should allow you to do this regardless.

Are AS Avios tickets upgradeable with cash?
Yes, AS Avios tickets can be upgraded by paying a fee at 24hr check in, "U" inventory allowance, space available. Please note upgraded U fare class tickets are not eligible for lounge access.

Do AS Elite Benefits apply to AS Avios tickets?
Yes, if you are AS MVP Gold for instance your AS Avios ticket is eligible for Complimentary Upgrades and as long as your AS FFN is in the reservation, you will be automatically added to the AS complimentary upgrade list (AS in 12/05/16 changed policy to allow complimentary upgrades to apply to award tickets - including Avios awards) Gold Guest Upgrades, however, have never been allowed to be applied to AS Avios tickets.

Can I book Virgin America flights now using avios?
As of 25 April 2018, Virgin America no longer exists as far as reservations systems are concerned. Former VX flights are now AS flights and can be booked with Avios.



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Old Dec 9, 2018, 3:41 pm
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Originally Posted by maisiedormouse
Would it be good use of my Avios points to book non stop SAN to SFO returns on Alaska next Nov? Are there multi cabin reward flights? We have previously done this flight one way on United during other holidays in economy plus. When do 9/11 - 15/11 go on sale.
I am not sure what you mean by multi-carrier rewards if you want a direct non-stop AS flight from SAN-SFO?

You can book flights up to 330 days in advance when the flight calendar opens up.
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Old Dec 10, 2018, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by maisiedormouse
Are there multi cabin reward flights?
what i mean is are there business class award flights as well as economy?

I have read the wiki but may need a cat sat on mat set of instructions to do this.

I will look on alaskan site for reward flights on my dates for my route and if i find any i then call BAEC number to book these reward flights with BA avios? Is it that simple?
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Old Dec 10, 2018, 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by maisiedormouse
what i mean is are there business class award flights as well as economy?

I have read the wiki but may need a cat sat on mat set of instructions to do this.

I will look on alaskan site for reward flights on my dates for my route and if i find any i then call BAEC number to book these reward flights with BA avios? Is it that simple?
As far as I know all cabins are available. The front cabin I think is marketed as first though even though it's really business so be aware you may have to pay avios required for first if you want that.

It may be better to check aa.com as that should show partner reward availability. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check for mileSSaver availability not AAnytime availability. Once you have found a flight you want just call BAEC.
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Old Dec 10, 2018, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
As far as I know all cabins are available. The front cabin I think is marketed as first though even though it's really business so be aware you may have to pay avios required for first if you want that.

It may be better to check aa.com as that should show partner reward availability. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check for mileSSaver availability not AAnytime availability. Once you have found a flight you want just call BAEC.
Just be aware that tickets are sold as HBO and you’ll have to pay for checked luggage at check in (certainly in economy anyway)
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 12:47 am
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I'm looking to do a basic redemption Chase UR -> BA -> Alaska SEA-HNL. I want to make sure I get it right and am not stuck with BA points that I won't be able to use. Could someone confirm if I have this right?

1. Check aa.com for saver availability on Alaska flights I want
2. Transfer 25k pp to BA
3. Call BA, ask to redeem for the Alaska flights I want

Is this all still updated and valid?
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by James Gan
3. Call BA, ask to redeem for the Alaska flights I want
I’d call BA and check that they can see the availability first. And when they say they can’t see it, ask them to check on another system.
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 2:05 am
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Apologies in advance if question has already been asked:

Looking to book SEA-LAX-SEA. Has anyone ever booked this AS route with Avios? The BA website shows a price of $7.5k plus taxes each way, but AA.com shows $12.5k points. Just wanted to confirm that the former amount is the accurate one?

Also- as an elite member, am I eligible for complimentary seating upgrades when booking this award flight? Or is it considered a Saver fare?

TIA!
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by Seattle206
Apologies in advance if question has already been asked:

Looking to book SEA-LAX-SEA. Has anyone ever booked this AS route with Avios? The BA website shows a price of $7.5k plus taxes each way, but AA.com shows $12.5k points. Just wanted to confirm that the former amount is the accurate one?

Also- as an elite member, am I eligible for complimentary seating upgrades when booking this award flight? Or is it considered a Saver fare?

TIA!
The BA price is the one you’ll pay if you book via BA.

BA award inventory is the same inventory that you see when searching for saaver on AA
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by James Gan
I'm looking to do a basic redemption Chase UR -> BA -> Alaska SEA-HNL. I want to make sure I get it right and am not stuck with BA points that I won't be able to use. Could someone confirm if I have this right?

1. Check aa.com for saver availability on Alaska flights I want
2. Transfer 25k pp to BA
3. Call BA, ask to redeem for the Alaska flights I want

Is this all still updated and valid?
Since you are using Chase UR points, an alternative is to transfer to Singapore Airlines Krisflyer and redeem through them on AS. Looks like it prices at 12k Krisflyer miles each way.
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...s_AwdChart.pdf
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mzb00
Since you are using Chase UR points, an alternative is to transfer to Singapore Airlines Krisflyer and redeem through them on AS. Looks like it prices at 12k Krisflyer miles each way.
https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...s_AwdChart.pdf
I was noticing that - would that be the same general process of:

1. look up on aa.com
2. call SA to book
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 4:17 pm
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Thanks for the info. I compared searches on ba.com and aa.com (saver fares) and noticed the inventory on certain dates is quite different. Does BA customer service honor the AA inventory? Or they only see what's available on the BA website?
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Tiger_lily

The BA price is the one you’ll pay if you book via BA.

BA award inventory is the same inventory that you see when searching for saaver on AA
Thanks for the info. I compared searches on ba.com and aa.com (saver fares) and noticed the inventory on certain dates is quite different. Does BA customer service honor the AA inventory? Or they only see what's available on the BA website?
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Seattle206
Thanks for the info. I compared searches on ba.com and aa.com (saver fares) and noticed the inventory on certain dates is quite different. Does BA customer service honor the AA inventory? Or they only see what's available on the BA website?


The ba.com website is incapable of displaying award-seat availability on AS flights. You must call a BAEC Service Center to check Avios availability on AS.
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Old Jan 11, 2019, 9:58 pm
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The ba.com website is incapable of displaying award-seat availability on AS flights. You must call a BAEC Service Center to check Avios availability on AS.
and also expect hold times of at least 20 min, if not longer....so make sure you have some time.
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Old Jan 12, 2019, 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by James Gan
I was noticing that - would that be the same general process of:

1. look up on aa.com
2. call SA to book
Correct. Don't believe AS awards are available online on the SQ site.
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