Is silver just a pipe dream?
#31
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#32
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Location: Bicester, UK
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Thanks for the clarification, I don't think the platinum is really that much of a possibility, I can't justify such a long flight if I can get gold by flying BA direct.
Flights are more likely to be LHR-GRU for the next few trips, also don't think I will make too many more this year, Mrs BT is expecting and due end of September.
I have signed up with AA, can I change the frequent flyer details on an existing booking to this, or do I have to leave it as BAEC? Is it worth it for possibly only 4 legs to GRU this year and a return to Cyprus.
Food for thought this, damn game has taken over the day, all I really want is lounge access!!
Flights are more likely to be LHR-GRU for the next few trips, also don't think I will make too many more this year, Mrs BT is expecting and due end of September.
I have signed up with AA, can I change the frequent flyer details on an existing booking to this, or do I have to leave it as BAEC? Is it worth it for possibly only 4 legs to GRU this year and a return to Cyprus.
Food for thought this, damn game has taken over the day, all I really want is lounge access!!
#33
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Welcome BT,
All sorts of tips in the stickies and threads in this forum, and sure enough you'll find the best way for you. I was a no-hoper for anything other than Blue, but with a little pre-planning and a couple of tweaks to routings I'm able to get the 600tps from this year.
First you want to be clear what you want out of Silver (eg. Lounge access) and ask if you're prepared to pay a little towards that. For example, a long-weekend somewhere close in Europe (fly CE) can get you 80tps and lift you over the 600 point line.
With 6 x trips to Sth Am in cheapo economy, you have 12 sectors at 30tps, so 360tps in the 'probable' bag and 240tps to find. It sounds like you do one WT+ rtn holiday a year (150tps), so add the 80 CE and you're only 10 short! That's one extra sector in Sth Am on Lan along the line.
As others have said paid upgrades on the WT legs can work for you too (have to say I'd hate those sectors in WT for work), or get work to pay for more flexible H,B,Y tickets which may well be cost effective anyhow in your line of work as the return leg may be easier to revise.
The one thing to watch is tying all the trips in with your BAEC year, which'll end on 8th of some month.
Good luck.
All sorts of tips in the stickies and threads in this forum, and sure enough you'll find the best way for you. I was a no-hoper for anything other than Blue, but with a little pre-planning and a couple of tweaks to routings I'm able to get the 600tps from this year.
First you want to be clear what you want out of Silver (eg. Lounge access) and ask if you're prepared to pay a little towards that. For example, a long-weekend somewhere close in Europe (fly CE) can get you 80tps and lift you over the 600 point line.
With 6 x trips to Sth Am in cheapo economy, you have 12 sectors at 30tps, so 360tps in the 'probable' bag and 240tps to find. It sounds like you do one WT+ rtn holiday a year (150tps), so add the 80 CE and you're only 10 short! That's one extra sector in Sth Am on Lan along the line.
As others have said paid upgrades on the WT legs can work for you too (have to say I'd hate those sectors in WT for work), or get work to pay for more flexible H,B,Y tickets which may well be cost effective anyhow in your line of work as the return leg may be easier to revise.
The one thing to watch is tying all the trips in with your BAEC year, which'll end on 8th of some month.
Good luck.
#34
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: London UK
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Once you reach 25k EQM you will get AAdvantage Gold status (OW Ruby) which, although this isn't going to get you lounge access, will mean you get 25% bonus miles on all subsequent flights. Once you hit Platinum, you'll get your lounge access and the ability to select seats on ba.com at the time of booking.
Welcome to the crazy world of miles and points. As someone told me when I started out on here, beware - it's addictive. They weren't wrong
#35
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@Britenbsas, I think we got our wires crossed, I will probably only make 2 x return trips to GRU this year, so 4 legs, not 4 returns, hopefully next year I might be a bit more frequent.
Will probably switch the BAEC number for the AA one in the bookings and see how we go, there might be one or two surprise journeys yet.
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#40
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Thanks ET for the points, guess my first port of call when I get to the airport is the desk referred to earlier, does that mean I should not use OLCI, or if there is an offer will it be offered then?
As for upgrades, have had plenty over the years to Ugnada and Kenya, 5 of us on one trip, hopefully they keep coming!
Play offs?? Hope not, not had much luck with those since we came up from League 2.
As for upgrades, have had plenty over the years to Ugnada and Kenya, 5 of us on one trip, hopefully they keep coming!
Play offs?? Hope not, not had much luck with those since we came up from League 2.
If you aren't offered it at OLCI, then you can try again at the desk in the departure lounge, but the chances are if you don't get it on OLCI then it isn't available.
The only time a visit to the 'desk' is necessary is if you have made your booking in such a way that upgrade offers don't appear on-line (e.g. you booked with a travel agent).
#41
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tonbridge
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Year ends 8th February, which is a pain, my last trip to GRU left before this and returned after, so I only have 30TP towards this year.
@Britenbsas, I think we got our wires crossed, I will probably only make 2 x return trips to GRU this year, so 4 legs, not 4 returns, hopefully next year I might be a bit more frequent.
Will probably switch the BAEC number for the AA one in the bookings and see how we go, there might be one or two surprise journeys yet.
@Britenbsas, I think we got our wires crossed, I will probably only make 2 x return trips to GRU this year, so 4 legs, not 4 returns, hopefully next year I might be a bit more frequent.
Will probably switch the BAEC number for the AA one in the bookings and see how we go, there might be one or two surprise journeys yet.
Britenbsas has made some interesting posts, I have to admit I didn't know much about AA before reading this.
For your situation it does sound like AA may be a cheaper route to lounge access, mainly because you won't have to pay from your own pocket to upgrade to WT+.
However, I think you would lose the ability to build status in Europe through a mileage run. For instance the short CE hops to Amsterdam/Jersey can earn a lot of TP's, but it doesn't sound like they would help your AA status.
Britenbsas, do the AA miles from the status bonus could towards status? I expect no, it would be too generous.
It also puts you further down the priority list for Op-UPs.
#42
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#43
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Annapolis, MD
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One thing that needs to be added regarding the benefits of AA or BA's programs is that if you go with AA and are traveling domestically in the US, you won't get lounge access when you hit AA PLT. With BA Siliver, you will.
Of course it can be debated as to whether access to Admirals Clubs is worth it at all
Of course it can be debated as to whether access to Admirals Clubs is worth it at all
#45
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