Massive Fare Difference SYD - YYZ (yes, the long way round)
Jan 24, 2011, 10:01 pm
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Massive Fare Difference SYD - YYZ (yes, the long way round)
Question for the board:
Pricing out a flight in J class for SYD - YYZ return on ba.com gives me a price of $67,373 AUD for 2 adults, 2 children and 1 infant in lap.
If I split the flight into two itineraries of SYD - LHR and LHR - YYZ, the total combined price comes down to $43,717 AUD.
Any idea why I would get such a massive price difference?
I'm trying to use my 2 GUF2's and GGL joker to secure First throughout (including stopovers in SIN and LHR), and I thought a condition of use was the the flights had to be on the same itinerary? Is that the case, or can I split the itinerary to get the lower overall fare and still use the GUF2's across the entire journey?
Pricing out a flight in J class for SYD - YYZ return on ba.com gives me a price of $67,373 AUD for 2 adults, 2 children and 1 infant in lap.
If I split the flight into two itineraries of SYD - LHR and LHR - YYZ, the total combined price comes down to $43,717 AUD.
Any idea why I would get such a massive price difference?
I'm trying to use my 2 GUF2's and GGL joker to secure First throughout (including stopovers in SIN and LHR), and I thought a condition of use was the the flights had to be on the same itinerary? Is that the case, or can I split the itinerary to get the lower overall fare and still use the GUF2's across the entire journey?
Jan 24, 2011, 10:17 pm
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$67,000 AUD??? Oh my god! 
GUF2 bookings must be on the same PNR - whole journey, both pax.
I suspect that the fare difference may be due to fare rules or something strange like that, but your quote is not exactly cheap and it doesn't appear to be I or R class, so I really can't explain it...
GUF2 bookings must be on the same PNR - whole journey, both pax.
I suspect that the fare difference may be due to fare rules or something strange like that, but your quote is not exactly cheap and it doesn't appear to be I or R class, so I really can't explain it...
Jan 24, 2011, 10:56 pm
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Jan 25, 2011, 6:23 am
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With the aid of ExpertFlyer ...
- BA don't publish any through fares SYD-YYZ.
- the cheapest I and R fares SYD-LHR are not end-on-end combinable with other fares on the same ticket, so BA will have used the J fare !
- hence the v high numbers you are seeing
So it will definitely be cheaper to buy separate tickets. Is there any reason you wouldn't want to do this ?
hth
- BA don't publish any through fares SYD-YYZ.
- the cheapest I and R fares SYD-LHR are not end-on-end combinable with other fares on the same ticket, so BA will have used the J fare !
- hence the v high numbers you are seeing
So it will definitely be cheaper to buy separate tickets. Is there any reason you wouldn't want to do this ?
hth
Jan 25, 2011, 6:30 am
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Don't Do It (The Long Way)!!!
I might be one one of the biggest frequent flyer sluts around, BUT, NO WAY I EVEN consider going the long way (Ouch). I'd take SYD to ANYWHERE in North America & then connect onto YYZ...
Jan 25, 2011, 6:37 am
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Jan 26, 2011, 6:52 pm
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4 RTW's are slightly more expensive given that I would have to book with BA to make use of the GUF2 (and they would only be used in one direction).
Jan 26, 2011, 6:54 pm
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Jan 26, 2011, 9:04 pm
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The long way indeed...
Jan 26, 2011, 11:05 pm
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Any idea if that applies to RTW tickets? i.e. could I book my RTW through BA, and ask for the GUF2 to apply to all "BA" segments, using the GGL joker to ensure upgrade into revenue buckets for First, or is there some wierd T&C that says it has to be a return journey? Technically, I would be returning to the same point, right?