Where has B77W G-STBB gone?
Dec 6, 2010, 1:50 am
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Dec 6, 2010, 9:27 am
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No, snow. Although at least one morning it would have been both, and I suspect this morning it was just fog that messed things up. There's a large snow pile in the usual place, next to the fire trainer (although I don't know why they don't just push it over into the dock), and the sound of their snow clearer was audible across the area at length. Living next to LCY and working near LHR, the difference in snowfall between the two places is quite surprising.
Dec 12, 2010, 6:34 am
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Yes, they certainly seem to. But have they asked the pax? In my informal, very small sample, unscientific poll, I have yet to find a single passenger who prefers the 773-ER over the 747 series. And if you narrow that sample down to premium cabins, I bet that it will be even more so. There's just no way to compare any cabin or seat in the 773 to the nosecone or upper deck of the 744.
Dec 12, 2010, 6:58 am
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One of the reasons why I prefer the 747 over the 777 is the lower cabin altitude. I'm unlikely to fly CW any time soon, so the UD has no draw for me, but I find it a much more comfortable flight than the 777.
Jumbodriver's post here confirms the difference in cabin altitude. Both the 747 and A380 operate at a lower "altitude" than the 777.
Jumbodriver's post here confirms the difference in cabin altitude. Both the 747 and A380 operate at a lower "altitude" than the 777.
Dec 12, 2010, 12:26 pm
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Hope not. The 747 pax series have had their day and the market has truly voted with their feet on the 747-8i
Fundamentally it is still a 1960's structural design and no amount of "warming over" will change this. It's like Ford trying to sell a 2010 updated version of the Mk 2 Cortina to the market....even re-engining it and giving it an interior makeover won't change the fact it is still based on a Mk 2 Cortina.
The A380, A350 and 773 (probably a next gen 773) is the way to go for the VLA market....the vast majority of airlines certainly think so ^
Fundamentally it is still a 1960's structural design and no amount of "warming over" will change this. It's like Ford trying to sell a 2010 updated version of the Mk 2 Cortina to the market....even re-engining it and giving it an interior makeover won't change the fact it is still based on a Mk 2 Cortina.
The A380, A350 and 773 (probably a next gen 773) is the way to go for the VLA market....the vast majority of airlines certainly think so ^
The 747 upper deck "private jet" experience is unsurpassed by any other aircraft IMHO. If airlines actually asked frequent long haul travellers what they thought then they would find this was a common comment.
And will the "market" get sick of 10 abreast seating on the 77W? Trouble is for every person who vows never to travel again in a 77W 10 abreast cabin there is someone else willing to pay the fare if it's low enough...
After 20 years of 747 travel in which it's never once put a foot wrong I for one will be very sad to see the 747 go. Aviation will just not be the same any more!
Dec 12, 2010, 1:06 pm
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Dec 12, 2010, 1:11 pm
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Dec 12, 2010, 1:21 pm
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As a child of the 70s, for me the 747 embodies commercial aviation. It is iconic. Whilst Concorde said speed and luxury, the 747 brought long haul travel to the masses. For me, no other plane can match the elegance of its lines. Whatever can be said of the A380, "beauty" is not it. All other single decked planes are just so boring. Give me a nose and an upstairs. Long live the 747!
Dec 12, 2010, 3:15 pm
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To my knowledge, AFKL, EY, EK and NZ (with their forthcoming 77Ws) and perhaps others have moved to 10 abreast, but BA is sticking with 9.
Dec 12, 2010, 3:24 pm
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^ Amen to that.
As a child of the 70s, for me the 747 embodies commercial aviation. It is iconic. Whilst Concorde said speed and luxury, the 747 brought long haul travel to the masses. For me, no other plane can match the elegance of its lines. Whatever can be said of the A380, "beauty" is not it. All other single decked planes are just so boring. Give me a nose and an upstairs. Long live the 747!
As a child of the 70s, for me the 747 embodies commercial aviation. It is iconic. Whilst Concorde said speed and luxury, the 747 brought long haul travel to the masses. For me, no other plane can match the elegance of its lines. Whatever can be said of the A380, "beauty" is not it. All other single decked planes are just so boring. Give me a nose and an upstairs. Long live the 747!
Dec 12, 2010, 3:51 pm
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