Fares and Travel Agents... [question about WT+ fares]
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Fares and Travel Agents... [question about WT+ fares]
I wonder if anyone has any advice on whether we are being told the truth by our travel agents or not...
We booked 4 WTP tickets from EDI-DFW; the travel agent charged us approx Ł2600 each for our tickets.
The problem - of course - came when we wanted to cancel one of these tickets, it turns out that the tickets are non-changeable and non-refundable. The agent told us flexible tickets (in W) for the same trip would have cost about another Ł1500 each...
Investigating on the BA web site - fully refundable/changeable (W class) tickets for the same journey are approx. Ł2400.
However, does what we are being told make any sense - can you buy a restricitive ticket for Ł2600 (including the travel agents fee) when the fully flexible ticket (on-line) costs Ł2400?
(I know we should have checked; but the reason the company uses the travel agent is that they are supposed to do all the work for us!)
We booked 4 WTP tickets from EDI-DFW; the travel agent charged us approx Ł2600 each for our tickets.
The problem - of course - came when we wanted to cancel one of these tickets, it turns out that the tickets are non-changeable and non-refundable. The agent told us flexible tickets (in W) for the same trip would have cost about another Ł1500 each...
Investigating on the BA web site - fully refundable/changeable (W class) tickets for the same journey are approx. Ł2400.
However, does what we are being told make any sense - can you buy a restricitive ticket for Ł2600 (including the travel agents fee) when the fully flexible ticket (on-line) costs Ł2400?
(I know we should have checked; but the reason the company uses the travel agent is that they are supposed to do all the work for us!)
#3
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So the question is really how come we get charged this price for a restricted ticket when the full W fare seems to be about Ł2420? I'm not really questioning what we have - more questioning whether it seems feasible that you pay a fare which appears to be more than the full fare price and end up with a restricted ticket?
#5
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What is the fare code EDI-LHR? Is it possible it combined an expensive, yet restrictive domestic add on and then IIRC the most restrictive conditions apply to the journey?
I fear, your beef is with your TA and not BA.
That said, EF shows the T fare is about £600 (excluding taxes). So wonder if they screwed up the booking?
I fear, your beef is with your TA and not BA.
That said, EF shows the T fare is about £600 (excluding taxes). So wonder if they screwed up the booking?
#6
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What is the fare code EDI-LHR? Is it possible it combined an expensive, yet restrictive domestic add on and then IIRC the most restrictive conditions apply to the journey?
I fear, your beef is with your TA and not BA.
That said, EF shows the T fare is about Ł600 (excluding taxes). So wonder if they screwed up the booking?
I fear, your beef is with your TA and not BA.
That said, EF shows the T fare is about Ł600 (excluding taxes). So wonder if they screwed up the booking?
The EDI-LHR is in 'L'.
The agent claims that they haven't screwed up and fares change all the time! In my experience at least the flexible fares are pretty consistant...
#7


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Nonsense. There might have been marginal fare changes, and a slight change in fuel surcharge, but a T-class fare has always been significantly less than you've been charged.
#8
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Why continue to use a TA? Unless you have a very complex journey or it is mandated by your Company you can do most things on ba.com or by a phone call to BA.
#9
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Veering OT for a mo, does anyone actually pay their TA a service charge for personal/leisure travel ?
I know that TAs don't earn the same commissions they did when I was in the industry 20 years ago, but my local (to the office) agent will happily book multi-sector non-full-fare Y & J itineraries for the published fare with no extras.
To be fair, I do much of the research beforehand and I do take some complex routings, so it may be more interesting that the run-of-the-mill stuff they usually do.
I am very pleased to have found someone I can trust and so avoid various Indian call centres
I know that TAs don't earn the same commissions they did when I was in the industry 20 years ago, but my local (to the office) agent will happily book multi-sector non-full-fare Y & J itineraries for the published fare with no extras.
To be fair, I do much of the research beforehand and I do take some complex routings, so it may be more interesting that the run-of-the-mill stuff they usually do.
I am very pleased to have found someone I can trust and so avoid various Indian call centres
#11
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BA1463 Depart: Sat 6 Dec 2008, 19:20, Arrive: Sat 6 Dec 2008, 20:40, Selling class: L
BA193, Depart: Sun 7 Dec 2008, 10:45, Arrive: Sun 7 Dec 2008, 15:00, Selling class: T
BA192, Depart: Thu 11 Dec 2008, 16:50, Arrive: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 07:40, Selling class: T
BA1438, Depart: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 08:55, Arrive: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 10:15, Selling class: V
So I expected the tickets to be fairly expensive since they do not include a Saturday night - but I did not expect them to be both expensive and restricted!
#12
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The most irritating thing about using the TA in my experience (other than the cost) - is the lack of ability to manage the booking online or via telephone BA (normally they insist that changes can only be made at the airport directly when a TA booked the ticket). Sometimes contacting the TA when half way around the world is not convenient!
#14
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By 1500 quid??
A full J LHR-EDI is £400 return. But these seem to be booked in cheapy class.
When were these intially booked? To get the T fare, it is 21 days advance purchase. So I wonder if they combined a fully flex W with the L/V domestics and did them as add ons (or is the term sectorised it?) and that's causing the problems.
To the OP, I really think you need to tear into your TA. Get them to send you a fare break down or put your PNR into viewtrip.com/checkmytrip.com and see if there is a fare break down on the e-ticket receipt.
A full J LHR-EDI is £400 return. But these seem to be booked in cheapy class.
When were these intially booked? To get the T fare, it is 21 days advance purchase. So I wonder if they combined a fully flex W with the L/V domestics and did them as add ons (or is the term sectorised it?) and that's causing the problems.
To the OP, I really think you need to tear into your TA. Get them to send you a fare break down or put your PNR into viewtrip.com/checkmytrip.com and see if there is a fare break down on the e-ticket receipt.
#15


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Thanks - I'm happy to quote the details, though I cannot see details of the fare bases anywhere (other than the classes mentioned), but the trip details are:
BA1463 Depart: Sat 6 Dec 2008, 19:20, Arrive: Sat 6 Dec 2008, 20:40, Selling class: L
BA193, Depart: Sun 7 Dec 2008, 10:45, Arrive: Sun 7 Dec 2008, 15:00, Selling class: T
BA192, Depart: Thu 11 Dec 2008, 16:50, Arrive: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 07:40, Selling class: T
BA1438, Depart: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 08:55, Arrive: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 10:15, Selling class: V
So I expected the tickets to be fairly expensive since they do not include a Saturday night - but I did not expect them to be both expensive and restricted!
BA1463 Depart: Sat 6 Dec 2008, 19:20, Arrive: Sat 6 Dec 2008, 20:40, Selling class: L
BA193, Depart: Sun 7 Dec 2008, 10:45, Arrive: Sun 7 Dec 2008, 15:00, Selling class: T
BA192, Depart: Thu 11 Dec 2008, 16:50, Arrive: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 07:40, Selling class: T
BA1438, Depart: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 08:55, Arrive: Fri 12 Dec 2008, 10:15, Selling class: V
So I expected the tickets to be fairly expensive since they do not include a Saturday night - but I did not expect them to be both expensive and restricted!
Booking online I don't think you would actually be able to buy a non-cancellable return which didn't include a Saturday night. You'd pay a fortune but get a semi-flex ticket.
However, TAs always seem to have access to extra-crap fares. I know our TA somehow has access to the most useless fare buckets imaginable (i.e. really expensive but not properly flexible!).

