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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by SxMan
and is it pricing up to a flexible or an inflexible business ticket?
Despite "Y" booking class on the shorter segment, the rules will be those of the business class fare (most likely, inflexible).

Originally Posted by csycsycsy
What usually happens if the married-segments availability is say D4I4 for LHR-MAD and D4I0 for MAD-ALC, does BA offer prices for both D-D and I-Y?
I think the website will offer I-Y by default where I is not available on the short segment, but it is possible to call up and ask to price business class on both segments in the higher booking classes.

Originally Posted by hungry
Sorry to reopen this again.. my friend has booked the exact same flights out as me. He has booked business as well, but like me he has been ticketed 'business' but cabin economy on the way out.

One question, will he be able to enter the lounge in MAD? As I already have a guest that is flying economy that I need to guest in.

Thanks
I believe, only if the connection is to/from a long-haul flight. In this your friend will only get access before the flight to LHR.
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by hungry
One question, will he be able to enter the lounge in MAD? As I already have a guest that is flying economy that I need to guest in.
Without status, access in MAD only by flying in business class (as printed on the boarding pass, regardless of what the booking site showed!) or as a guest of someone with status.
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by Andriyko
I think the website will offer I-Y by default where I is not available on the short segment, but it is possible to call up and ask to price business class on both segments in the higher booking classes.
Seems weird for BA to not try the upsell....
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 10:35 am
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I just don’t understand it. I have done this journey dozens of times. When selecting Business Class it has always put me in Business Class on Both flights.

I have called BA 3 times now and they just can not explain this anomaly
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by hungry
I just dont understand it. I have done this journey dozens of times. When selecting Business Class it has always put me in Business Class on Both flights.

I have called BA 3 times now and they just can not explain this anomaly
Its not complicated, youre trying to book an I class fare but I is not available on the second leg so its defaulting to Y instead. If you didnt spot it during booking you can call and cancel within 24 hours, wait times are currently very short and youll be done in under 5 mins - certainly less time than writing multiple posts here.

As suggested above, the alternative is to ask for a more expensive fare overall (e.g. D class), which would give you Business on both legs.
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 1:16 pm
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Dear OP - I may be castigated for this - but why do you give yourself all the aggravation of doing a change of flight in MAD? If you live nearby LHR - I can understand that.Indeed some days the LGW flight goes out at at egregiously early times - and I hate that as well. However, the LGW flight is extremely convenient. I used it last Friday and I avoided all that perambulation at Barajas. It is immense and most of the Air Nostrum flights are from those K gates. It's miles to walk. Do you mind me asking? It may be useful for others.

edited to say that I think that the Lounges at Gatwick are streets ahead of LHR if that helps.
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by hungry
I just dont understand it. I have done this journey dozens of times. When selecting Business Class it has always put me in Business Class on Both flights.

I have called BA 3 times now and they just can not explain this anomaly
Did you specifically ask them to give you a price for business class on both legs?

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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Dear OP - I may be castigated for this - but why do you give yourself all the aggravation of doing a change of flight in MAD?
Dearest Pucci, not everyone wants the simplest life, or even the simplest according to your rules.

I dont dare speak for the OP, but I have also taken many indirect routings via MAD over the years. I actually quite like the beautiful terminal and dont curse a dwell there. Even less so if I manage to time it for when the Velazquez barman is on duty to fix me a decent G&T. I do like LGW S and the lounges there, but anything earlier than about 11am and I need a hotel the night before, while LHR is much more convenient. In the old days the extra TPs didnt hurt either.

Fundamentally I suppose its no different really from flying BUD-LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX, when LHR-LAX is also available. For some of us, the journey is part of the enjoyment.

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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 1:45 pm
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Yes, if you select "cheapest fare", but then select Business on leg1, it doesn't necessarily follow that any selection on leg2 is also Business. Alternatively if you select Business on the fare selector drop down, at least in theory all legs should be Business. But as mentioned, it's quite straightforward to change anything like this for no change fee so long as you call within 24 hours. You will have to pay a fare difference if you ended up with a lowest cost option first time around.
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Old Jun 25, 2025 | 2:45 pm
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Slightly off topic but possibly relevant.

I booked flight with Iberia through BA in economy. It was upgraded to first? Got access to the lounges without any problem but seats on flights both in economy.

Was not bothered and did not raise it either during or after flight but was not sure if some kind of booking error rather than upgrade.
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Old Jun 26, 2025 | 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
Slightly off topic but possibly relevant.

I booked flight with Iberia through BA in economy. It was upgraded to first? Got access to the lounges without any problem but seats on flights both in economy.

Was not bothered and did not raise it either during or after flight but was not sure if some kind of booking error rather than upgrade.
Iberia doesn't operate First, so definitely sounds like an IT error on the BA side (surprise, surprise!)
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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 2:32 am
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What I don't understand is on my manage my booking on BA (where I booked the flights) it is still showing as both flights in Business Class!! It is a joke...


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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
Dear OP - I may be castigated for this - but why do you give yourself all the aggravation of doing a change of flight in MAD? If you live nearby LHR - I can understand that.Indeed some days the LGW flight goes out at at egregiously early times - and I hate that as well. However, the LGW flight is extremely convenient. I used it last Friday and I avoided all that perambulation at Barajas. It is immense and most of the Air Nostrum flights are from those K gates. It's miles to walk. Do you mind me asking? It may be useful for others.

edited to say that I think that the Lounges at Gatwick are streets ahead of LHR if that helps.
I like the LGW lounges too, but there is only 1 direct flight that day, and that doesnt arrive to ALC until 2100. rubbish
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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by hungry
What I don't understand is on my manage my booking on BA (where I booked the flights) it is still showing as both flights in Business Class!! It is a joke...
So are you happy to pay for D-D? You can call BA and upfare...?
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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by hungry
I like the LGW lounges too, but there is only 1 direct flight that day, and that doesnt arrive to ALC until 2100. rubbish
I suppose it is subject to what one defines as rubbish. I will never catch an early morning flight if an afternoon will do. The only day of the week where there is a 21.00 arrival is a Friday. On Fridays (I have done this before as it was significantly cheaper) the only way to go from Heathrow to ALC via MAD, is on a beastly 06.15 flight. Now you may like to do this, but nothing on earth would persuade me too if I did not have to do so.

Other then that, everything that it is showing on Expertflyer connect only to the IB 1015 which arrives at 20.55.

I am clearly missing something?
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