​Thanks for the info. This is fast becoming too complicated to bother with. I see all carriers have buttoned things up to avoid anyone playing the system, so to speak.

To be honest the value of getting back to Silver is limited, I still fly occasionally for work and me and the misses do one or two longhauls a year plus a few domestic east coast hops so any benefit would be seldom used in reality, perhaps 10 flights a year? Additionally I've never been blown away by the BA products vs price, when I flew regularly I wasn't paying for the tickets. This last trip we booked I didn't even consider BA Club World.

I/we enjoy a couple the benefits, one is seat selection on any one world partner flight as soon as you book. In a country where you can fly for 5 hours and still be on a domestic flight, ensuring you're not wedged in on the dreaded center aisle becomes a concern. This becomes exponentially more important when you're doing 10+ hours international flights. Flying business is very much the exception to the rule...

I also enjoy the lounges, after 7 years on the road I have gotten used to having them but if neither of us is really flying much I'm not sure all this hassle is worth it.
I think I might take the points, we might do two flights in Europe and possibly retain Bronze, suggest the gf signs up to Qatar or Qantas to claim points and leave it at that! Life is too short to worry about this!

The occasional recent BAEC references to this situation suggest that it's a restriction that BA is constrained to live with, rather than actively wanting to continue. IIRC, it dates back to the days of the BA/QF JSA. Other BAEC anomalies that may date back to that period are being able to earn BAEC mileage (now Avios) and TPs on QF-marketed flights operated by non-OW airlines.

This has nothing to do with whether or not BA has codeshare flights within the country in question. BA does have its code on flights within Australia. The reason you can't book them is nothing to do with the frequent flyer scheme. After all, you don't need a BA-coded flight to earn Avios and TPs in BAEC: you just need to buy and fly on QF.

There are plenty of examples of countries whose residents are very welcome as members of BAEC, but within which you cannot buy a standalone BA-coded flight. For example, there are plenty of BA-coded domestic flights within the US, and plenty of US-resident BAEC members - but you cannot buy a BA-coded US domestic flight on its own.

Oh yes, getting Avios and Tier Points on UA is quite the abomination!

I suspect it's more to do with the 9th Freedom - no foreign carrier may operate 9th Freedom (Domestic Cabotage) within either the US or Australia (with the exception of New Zealand airlines in Australia, which is why NZ was able to sell domestic VA fares as codeshares) and since codeshare agreements are subject to government approval, I assume they're treated as "flown" by the marketing carrier!

QF of course allows UK residents to be members of QFF. It is indeed a strange hangover from the past, particularly since my experience of QF treatment of myself and my other half with BAEC status ranges wildly, including some who treat it as if it is some mysterious FF scheme from a far away land of which they know nothing.

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You can only fly the codeshares as an extension to a ba long haul flight, not on their own

Unless on a RTW ticket.

Even then you should be arriving or departing the country/region on a BA coded flight as the flights are marked as VALID FOR INTERNATIONAL ONLINE CONX/STOPOVER TRAFFIC ONLY

See this RTW thread for more discussion: Rules on when BA code shares are permitted on xONExs

I'm sure that this is the by far the biggest factor in it.

However, whatever the reasons are, there certainly isn't any linkage to whether residents of Australia are permitted to join the BA frequent flyer scheme, contrary to the suggestion in this post:-

I am working on this DONE4 and need to see if there is a list with all codeshares in australia and NZ with ba number. anyone come across it?

This thread is from 2018. A *lot* has changed.

In NZ the answer is simple: none. As no Oneworld airline operates in NZ. The Qantas owned low cost airline JQ Jetstar does operate some NZ domestic flights with a few A320's. Is a specific rule in OW RTW rules that allows QF codeshares on JQ to be part of a *ONE* & GLOB* tickets. But given the cheap fares and short routes in NZ would be a waste of a segment.

In NZ all domestic flights (JQ and Air NZ) are economy seating only. No NZ domestic business class seats.

In AU are some AU domestic flight BA codeshares on QF that are mainly sold as tag's on to BA15 (LHR-SIN-SYD). When BA restarts flying to MEL expect a few more.
Are also on the some AA codeshares on QF on the same basis. That is sold a tag on's to AA flights from USA.

Are BA & AA codeshare on QF trans Tasman (AU<--->NZ).

Have read that expert flyer can show the BA codeshares on QF. [I am not a user of expert flyer].
Airport website flight departures may show codeshare, but clumsy way to find out.
Years ago (~decade) OW used to publish a pdf timetable, While old tech they did list codeshares, so was easy to identify.

I long for the good old paper/pdf lists!

with DONE/AONE we can book BA even when not connecting off the ba15/16 but it's just bloody difficult to find any useful codeshares!

SYD arrivals. A lot more AA codeshares than BA (could not see any BA)

Can you not just search the timetables on expertflyer for this and filter for the BA codeshares. Example below for 8th April

Although I have just noticed it was nufnuf77 asking the question so I am pretty sure you know that and are asking a question more complex than my answer!!