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Originally Posted by gliderpilot
(Post 32395349)
Intrigued as to what will happen to all these a380s being retired or handed back to the leasers. Air France as well I see. Nominally they are worth an awful lot of money (although given the environment and number of a380s on the market it may mean you wouldn't get much for multi hundred million $ asset - quite a write off!). So would these relatively young aircraft be likely to just be put into long term storage to await better times, converted into freighters or scrapped for parts?
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Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 32395400)
All BA 380 are owned, not leased.
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That sounds new to me; I always heard they were BA-owned and that the only longhaulers on lease were a few - possibly half? - of the 77Ws and the odd 77E.
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Flightaware indicating that G-ZBLB may be off on its first flight today...
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Originally Posted by gliderpilot
(Post 32395349)
Intrigued as to what will happen to all these a380s being retired or handed back to the leasers. Air France as well I see. Nominally they are worth an awful lot of money (although given the environment and number of a380s on the market it may mean you wouldn't get much for multi hundred million $ asset - quite a write off!). So would these relatively young aircraft be likely to just be put into long term storage to await better times, converted into freighters or scrapped for parts?
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Originally Posted by Akoz
(Post 32395984)
The other consideration is if no one is fly them, then the second hand parts market collapses too.
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Originally Posted by gliderpilot
(Post 32395349)
Intrigued as to what will happen to all these a380s being retired or handed back to the leasers. Air France as well I see. Nominally they are worth an awful lot of money (although given the environment and number of a380s on the market it may mean you wouldn't get much for multi hundred million $ asset - quite a write off!). So would these relatively young aircraft be likely to just be put into long term storage to await better times, converted into freighters or scrapped for parts?
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Originally Posted by gliderpilot
(Post 32395349)
Intrigued as to what will happen to all these a380s being retired or handed back to the leasers. Air France as well I see. Nominally they are worth an awful lot of money (although given the environment and number of a380s on the market it may mean you wouldn't get much for multi hundred million $ asset - quite a write off!). So would these relatively young aircraft be likely to just be put into long term storage to await better times, converted into freighters or scrapped for parts?
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G-ZBLA’s delivery has been delayed again! Now it’s the 31st May.
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I saw a post today on another forum I subscribe to (non aviation). I've looked back a few weeks on this thread and can't see anything here nor on The BA Source to corroborate the info.
The post was: "Just caught up with a mate who works in Tech Services for one the largest remaining 747 operators. He's gone back off furlough this week and one of his first tasks was reconfiguring their "SuperHigh J" aircraft to "Mid J" taking out 20 J seats and installing Y class. Plan is to retain the freshest, youngest aircraft out of D check and cannibalise all the rest." And, in another post: "Didn't ask the details by zone, he's also been doing the temporary cargo conversion designs on the 777's." The carrier wasn't named, but sounds like BA! Is this re-configuring old news and I've just missed it or is it something new - or just a rumour? |
Originally Posted by peter h
(Post 32399987)
I saw a post today on another forum I subscribe to (non aviation). I've looked back a few weeks on this thread and can't see anything here nor on The BA Source to corroborate the info.
The post was: "Just caught up with a mate who works in Tech Services for one the largest remaining 747 operators. He's gone back off furlough this week and one of his first tasks was reconfiguring their "SuperHigh J" aircraft to "Mid J" taking out 20 J seats and installing Y class. Plan is to retain the freshest, youngest aircraft out of D check and cannibalise all the rest." And, in another post: "Didn't ask the details by zone, he's also been doing the temporary cargo conversion designs on the 777's." The carrier wasn't named, but sounds like BA! Is this re-configuring old news and I've just missed it or is it something new - or just a rumour? On another news, a former colleague in BA was telling me - quoting others in Engineering, so 3rd hand info - that G-ZBLA keeps on failing its acceptance tests. There isn't a lot of need for her right now, obviously, but apparently people are getting a bit frustrated with Boeing Charleston's well documented incapacity to deliver. |
Originally Posted by peter h
(Post 32399987)
I saw a post today on another forum I subscribe to (non aviation). I've looked back a few weeks on this thread and can't see anything here nor on The BA Source to corroborate the info.
The post was: "Just caught up with a mate who works in Tech Services for one the largest remaining 747 operators. He's gone back off furlough this week and one of his first tasks was reconfiguring their "SuperHigh J" aircraft to "Mid J" taking out 20 J seats and installing Y class. Plan is to retain the freshest, youngest aircraft out of D check and cannibalise all the rest." And, in another post: "Didn't ask the details by zone, he's also been doing the temporary cargo conversion designs on the 777's." The carrier wasn't named, but sounds like BA! Is this re-configuring old news and I've just missed it or is it something new - or just a rumour? |
Originally Posted by peter h
(Post 32399987)
I saw a post today on another forum I subscribe to (non aviation). I've looked back a few weeks on this thread and can't see anything here nor on The BA Source to corroborate the info.
The post was: "Just caught up with a mate who works in Tech Services for one the largest remaining 747 operators. He's gone back off furlough this week and one of his first tasks was reconfiguring their "SuperHigh J" aircraft to "Mid J" taking out 20 J seats and installing Y class. Plan is to retain the freshest, youngest aircraft out of D check and cannibalise all the rest." And, in another post: "Didn't ask the details by zone, he's also been doing the temporary cargo conversion designs on the 777's." The carrier wasn't named, but sounds like BA! Is this re-configuring old news and I've just missed it or is it something new - or just a rumour? |
Originally Posted by peter h
(Post 32399987)
I saw a post today on another forum I subscribe to (non aviation). I've looked back a few weeks on this thread and can't see anything here nor on The BA Source to corroborate the info.
The post was: "Just caught up with a mate who works in Tech Services for one the largest remaining 747 operators. He's gone back off furlough this week and one of his first tasks was reconfiguring their "SuperHigh J" aircraft to "Mid J" taking out 20 J seats and installing Y class. Plan is to retain the freshest, youngest aircraft out of D check and cannibalise all the rest." And, in another post: "Didn't ask the details by zone, he's also been doing the temporary cargo conversion designs on the 777's." The carrier wasn't named, but sounds like BA! Is this re-configuring old news and I've just missed it or is it something new - or just a rumour? what will be interesting is where on the 747 they take them from. *WILD SPECULATION* Do you end up with a 747 with economy just behind first, or do the sensible option, remove J seats and shove WTP forward, or will they remove J from the upper deck and fill it with Y (there are 20 seats up there) |
I’ve just realised, 20 seats is the amount of J seats on the upper deck of the 747. If they switch the upper deck to Y, then being an economy traveler like me has become exciting :D
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