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Not at all, dear boy. Anyone is free to purchase those tickets at the advertised prices and with the advertised conditions. It would be discriminatory if they said "these prices are only for UK citizens" but the price and conditions are dependent only on the origin and destination of the flight, not on the nationality, residence or citizenship of the purchaser or traveller.Originally Posted by jcm9000:19649815
Saying it quietly since i like being able to change I tickets and most definitely devils advocate type buffoonery, isn't that a bit...discriminatory...towards Brit residents? Then again I am sure there are a few instances where such things go the other way
It's purely an issue of market expectations and competition. To cite another example, I can buy an I class DXB-LHR-JFK return for less than LHR-JFK-LHR and changes and cancellation are permitted for a hundred quid.
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It depends on the precise rules for the fare you purchased, but generally:Originally Posted by kacheng
So if I change an I ticket, bought during a promo, with 300 EUR change fee to another date with I availability, do I just pay the change fee or is the ticket re-calculated on the actual I fare?
- before travel has commenced, the fare is repriced at current levels
- after travel has commenced (e.g. changing the return leg), the fare is repriced using historical fares in force at the time of ticketing
Assuming all other fare rules are still met, e.g. min/man stay, etc.
e.g. PAR-NYC in December
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CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
FOR ADULT AND CHILD
INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
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WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS WILL APPLY
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A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR
RESERVATION CHANGE
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PASSENGERS WHO NO-SHOW FOR A FLIGHT WILL BE
CONSIDERED AS A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND
WILL RECEIVE NO REFUND OF THE FARE. CHANGES WILL
NOT BE PERMITTED.
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WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED - AND - ANY CHANGE
FEE APPLIED
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WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL BE
MADE.
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REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
AS THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED
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//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
1.WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED
THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE
NEWLY TICKETED FARE I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/
TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY/BOOKING
CLASSES/SEASONALITY ETC....
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2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
LOWER.
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES
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//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE
PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH THAT
THE RECALCULATED FARE COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE
NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET
ISSUE DATE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION-PER PERSON
FOR ADULT AND CHILD
INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY
CHILD DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY
------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ANY OF THE CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS WILL APPLY
------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/ OR FLIGHT/ OR ROUTING/ OR
RESERVATION CHANGE
------------------------------------------------
PASSENGERS WHO NO-SHOW FOR A FLIGHT WILL BE
CONSIDERED AS A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND
WILL RECEIVE NO REFUND OF THE FARE. CHANGES WILL
NOT BE PERMITTED.
-------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED - AND - ANY CHANGE
FEE APPLIED
-------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE WILL BE APPLIED -AND- NO REFUND WILL BE
MADE.
-------------------------------------------------
REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
AS THE RESERVATION IS CHANGED
------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
1.WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED
THE ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE
NEWLY TICKETED FARE I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/
TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM STAY/BOOKING
CLASSES/SEASONALITY ETC....
-----------------------------------------------
2.WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
LOWER.
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES
-----------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE
PROVISIONS OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH THAT
THE RECALCULATED FARE COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE
NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET
ISSUE DATE.
hth
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It is discrimination ... second degree price discrimination! Originally Posted by jcm9000
Saying it quietly since i like being able to change I tickets and most definitely devils advocate type buffoonery, isn't that a bit...discriminatory...towards Brit residents? Then again I am sure there are a few instances where such things go the other way
As per my post in another thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...w-lay-out.html
and as many others have found out; flying from other airports to LHR then on to USA can save a fortune. There are a lot of threads about quick turnarounds (very easy at AMS): fly LHR-AMS; get out of the gate; turn around; board the same plane back to LHR and on to final destination. In CW this can save you GBP 1000 easily. On your way back from the USA, have your checked luggage labeled to LHR, "miss" your connection to AMS and voila you are on your way home. Some FT'ers think this is against the rules and will protest vehemently about this (mis)use of pricing rules.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...w-lay-out.html
and as many others have found out; flying from other airports to LHR then on to USA can save a fortune. There are a lot of threads about quick turnarounds (very easy at AMS): fly LHR-AMS; get out of the gate; turn around; board the same plane back to LHR and on to final destination. In CW this can save you GBP 1000 easily. On your way back from the USA, have your checked luggage labeled to LHR, "miss" your connection to AMS and voila you are on your way home. Some FT'ers think this is against the rules and will protest vehemently about this (mis)use of pricing rules.
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...w-lay-out.html
and as many others have found out; flying from other airports to LHR then on to USA can save a fortune. There are a lot of threads about quick turnarounds (very easy at AMS): fly LHR-AMS; get out of the gate; turn around; board the same plane back to LHR and on to final destination. In CW this can save you GBP 1000 easily. On your way back from the USA, have your checked luggage labeled to LHR, "miss" your connection to AMS and voila you are on your way home. Some FT'ers think this is against the rules and will protest vehemently about this (mis)use of pricing rules.
No, they are probably more likely to be concerned they'll be flagged for an audit and have all their Avios 'enhanced' away.Originally Posted by Zaynab
As per my post in another thread:http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...w-lay-out.html
and as many others have found out; flying from other airports to LHR then on to USA can save a fortune. There are a lot of threads about quick turnarounds (very easy at AMS): fly LHR-AMS; get out of the gate; turn around; board the same plane back to LHR and on to final destination. In CW this can save you GBP 1000 easily. On your way back from the USA, have your checked luggage labeled to LHR, "miss" your connection to AMS and voila you are on your way home. Some FT'ers think this is against the rules and will protest vehemently about this (mis)use of pricing rules.
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It looks like you could achieve this by either committing suicide or murdering a travel companion:-Originally Posted by Dino81
I've got an I class ticket and I know that theres a lot of restrictions on it, can't upgrade, can't change date/time of flights and can't cancel. BUT does anyone know if there are any ways around it so that I could cancel without losing the whole/large sum of the fare that I paid for it?
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Otherwise, what's the point of the airline writing in a "no refunds" condition if there is a simple workaround? CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS