Rio Olympics
#166
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Doesn't sound, from this first hand report, that transportation is running very smoothly:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...e_Janeiro.html
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...e_Janeiro.html
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For the most part transportation is working well. There was thr issue with Line4 not running late at night.
Lack of security is a real issue. First couple of days when Presidents etc were here security was good. But now that they have left, security has gone down hill. Typically there is no real security at the entrance to the metro /BRT. This morning was took a taxi to the metro ang there was a big gang fighting about a half a block from the metro
Station. No police to be seen. Many reports of robberies.
Very long lines to get any food within the park. Many people have missed events because of the long lines.
Lack of security is a real issue. First couple of days when Presidents etc were here security was good. But now that they have left, security has gone down hill. Typically there is no real security at the entrance to the metro /BRT. This morning was took a taxi to the metro ang there was a big gang fighting about a half a block from the metro
Station. No police to be seen. Many reports of robberies.
Very long lines to get any food within the park. Many people have missed events because of the long lines.
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For the most part transportation is working well. There was thr issue with Line4 not running late at night.
Lack of security is a real issue. First couple of days when Presidents etc were here security was good. But now that they have left, security has gone down hill. Typically there is no real security at the entrance to the metro /BRT. This morning was took a taxi to the metro ang there was a big gang fighting about a half a block from the metro
Station. No police to be seen. Many reports of robberies.
Very long lines to get any food within the park. Many people have missed events because of the long lines.
Lack of security is a real issue. First couple of days when Presidents etc were here security was good. But now that they have left, security has gone down hill. Typically there is no real security at the entrance to the metro /BRT. This morning was took a taxi to the metro ang there was a big gang fighting about a half a block from the metro
Station. No police to be seen. Many reports of robberies.
Very long lines to get any food within the park. Many people have missed events because of the long lines.
#170

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A very accurate and fair article IMO...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
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A very accurate and fair article IMO...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
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A very accurate and fair article IMO...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/11/sp...=tw-share&_r=0
"The less time you speak to Cariocas, as natives of Rio are known, the more you will enjoy this place."
I'm glad we cariocas won't have to put up with the likes of DAVID SEGAL once the Olympics are over. DAVID SEGAL, follow you own advice and [redacted] already!
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#174
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I didn't like the malicious tone of this article at all!
"The less time you speak to Cariocas, as natives of Rio are known, the more you will enjoy this place."
I'm glad we cariocas won't have to put up with the likes of DAVID SEGAL once the Olympics are over. DAVID SEGAL, follow you own advice and [redacted] already!
"The less time you speak to Cariocas, as natives of Rio are known, the more you will enjoy this place."
I'm glad we cariocas won't have to put up with the likes of DAVID SEGAL once the Olympics are over. DAVID SEGAL, follow you own advice and [redacted] already!

#175
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A day late and a dollar (or equivalent in reais) short....
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...808-story.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...808-story.html
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I have to respectfully disagree that the crime is media hysteria. We stayed in Barra and saw first hand some of the violence. At the Jardim Oceanico station where The new Line 4 and the Brt meet, there were gangs and a big pool of fresh blood on the ground. Look at the attack on our swimmers as they left thr France house. The IOC tried to hide / deny the attack. If they felt they could hide the attack on our swimmers, just think about what they are managing to hide. Think about the bus that had Windows shot out. They tried to say it was rocks being thrown until it became obvious that it was bullits.
I also know NBC crew members that were in a taxi and saw shooting as they were leaving the Opening Ceremony. Add to this all the other known crimes and you do have the most dangerous games in modern history.
I also know NBC crew members that were in a taxi and saw shooting as they were leaving the Opening Ceremony. Add to this all the other known crimes and you do have the most dangerous games in modern history.
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You saw fresh blood on the ground. Are you implying that someone was stabbed or something like that? You do know that accidents also happen, don't you?
Saw or heard?
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C010T3, Would like to respond to some of your comments.
1. Yes I do know that accidents occur. However, how many times to do you a pool of blood about 2 ft in diameter on the ground? Yes, I do believe that it was probably a stabbing. On top of this, it was within about 20 yards of the gang of people that were attacking the one individual and ripping his clothes off. This was within 50 yards or so of the Jardim Oceanico BRT / Metro stop. It was about 6:15 in the morning. No police were anywhere around.
2. If the IOC was not trying to hide the attack why didn't they just go and ask the swimmers before denying the attack? Yes there should have been a police report filed immediately but the IOC denying the attack without checking it out is not responsible.
3. Relative to the bus, people have described there being holes in the bus. Rocks can make holes in metal? Also, if you have gone on that BRT route (which we have) you would know that it would be very difficult for anyone to throw a rock that far with enough force and accuracy to hit the bus. Please read the reports from the people who were actually on the bus.
4. The crew members heard the shots and saw the body on the ground. And before you ask, they did not stop and check to see if the person was dead or alive.
I realize that you are from Rio and want to defend your city but you need to understand that people have seen and experienced a lot of violence at this Olympics. The violence has been much more widespread than any other Olympic Games in modern history.
1. Yes I do know that accidents occur. However, how many times to do you a pool of blood about 2 ft in diameter on the ground? Yes, I do believe that it was probably a stabbing. On top of this, it was within about 20 yards of the gang of people that were attacking the one individual and ripping his clothes off. This was within 50 yards or so of the Jardim Oceanico BRT / Metro stop. It was about 6:15 in the morning. No police were anywhere around.
2. If the IOC was not trying to hide the attack why didn't they just go and ask the swimmers before denying the attack? Yes there should have been a police report filed immediately but the IOC denying the attack without checking it out is not responsible.
3. Relative to the bus, people have described there being holes in the bus. Rocks can make holes in metal? Also, if you have gone on that BRT route (which we have) you would know that it would be very difficult for anyone to throw a rock that far with enough force and accuracy to hit the bus. Please read the reports from the people who were actually on the bus.
4. The crew members heard the shots and saw the body on the ground. And before you ask, they did not stop and check to see if the person was dead or alive.
I realize that you are from Rio and want to defend your city but you need to understand that people have seen and experienced a lot of violence at this Olympics. The violence has been much more widespread than any other Olympic Games in modern history.
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3. Relative to the bus, people have described there being holes in the bus. Rocks can make holes in metal? Also, if you have gone on that BRT route (which we have) you would know that it would be very difficult for anyone to throw a rock that far with enough force and accuracy to hit the bus. Please read the reports from the people who were actually on the bus.
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Violence is more widespread in the world than at the time of any other Olympuc Games, as I'm sure people in Paris or Istanbul or London could tell you, and it is present at major sports events, as the people of Boston could attest.
"People have seen and experienced a lot of violence"? A few people have seen and experienced a few incidents, just like at other times, Carnaval and Reveillon for example, when millions of visitors of all types, street smart and heedless, flood the city. The percentages usually end up miniscule, even if the same incident is trumpeted repeatedly in the media rush to sensationalize.
And btw, your "gang" in example 1 sounds maybe like a little street justice for a
thief when police were not around.
And a question: Would you recognize an Umbanda ritual offering site if you tripped over one on the pavement?

