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G_G Apr 22, 2011 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by mmdpkaaa (Post 16263534)
thanks very much. what does FS- CS+ YS+ stand for? :s

F : First Class
C : Business Class
Y : Economy Class

+ means availability
- means No availability
/ this class doesn't exist

erasmus99 Apr 22, 2011 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by G_G (Post 16263488)
MEL-SIN awards in Business are impossible to find because they are flown by SQ's 77W or 388.

Not impossible for the 777. Equipment swaps are frequent on this route and award space is not consistently blocked. Look far ahead.

cityflyer369 Apr 25, 2011 11:55 am

Have we got a thread somewhere that lists the award booking classes that we can use for Diamond Club (i.e. a list that contains most Star Alliance airlines)?

KVS Apr 25, 2011 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by cityflyer369 (Post 16277466)
Have we got a thread somewhere that lists the award booking classes that we can use for Diamond Club (i.e. a list that contains most Star Alliance airlines)?

Here is a complete listing of Star Alliance Award Booking Classes across its 26 member carriers (all of which are supported via the KVS Tool):

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

mmdpkaaa Apr 26, 2011 11:14 am

im trying to find flights on ANA but wth no luck, i need 2 seats business class from MAN-SYD/MEL on the 28th May - can anyone help?!
best i can find is MAN-ZRH-IST-BKK-SYD which seems awfully longwinded!
ANA doesnt seem to be showing any flights for LX or SQ
i dont mind travelling via dxb if its any better?

G_G Apr 27, 2011 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by mmdpkaaa (Post 16283207)
im trying to find flights on ANA but wth no luck, i need 2 seats business class from MAN-SYD/MEL on the 28th May - can anyone help?!
best i can find is MAN-ZRH-IST-BKK-SYD which seems awfully longwinded!
ANA doesnt seem to be showing any flights for LX or SQ
i dont mind travelling via dxb if its any better?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

MAN  Manchester Intl UK [EGCC]
DXB  Dubai AE [OMDB]
FRI  27 May 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        949    MAN  07:15    FRA  10:00    320  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    630    FRA  15:05    DXB  23:10    744  0  FS-  CS+  YS+

LH        941    MAN  08:50    FRA  11:35    319  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    630    FRA  15:05    DXB  23:10    744  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
LH        2503    MAN  17:15    MUC  20:10    319  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    638    MUC  21:45    DXB  05:40 +1  343  0  FS-  CS-  YS-


[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

DXB  Dubai AE [OMDB]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
SAT  28 May 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
SQ        493    DXB  20:00    SIN  07:30 +1  772  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> SQ    211    SIN  09:25 +1  SYD  18:55 +1  772  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
SQ        453    DXB  23:45    SIN  11:15 +1  772  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
 -> SQ    221    SIN  20:10 +1  SYD  05:55 +2  388  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
TG        518    DXB  20:55    BKK  06:40 +1  330  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> TG    471    BKK  07:55 +1  SYD  20:00 +1  346  0  FS-  CS+  YS+


cityflyer369 Apr 28, 2011 7:00 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 16280807)
Here is a complete listing of Star Alliance Award Booking Classes across its 26 member carriers (all of which are supported via the KVS Tool):

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

Thank you very much for this link, KVS.

One OT hint in return for this:
As the table correctly shows, AF's booking class system is going to change from June. What could be updated in the table is that parallel to this change KL's award booking classes will be switched to the AF system. (Actually AF and KL are going to allign all their booking classes.) Discussions about this can be found in the Flying Blue forum.

One more question to you:
Some airlines have different availability in the same award booking class, depending on whether or not the person requesting the award flight has a higher status. How does the KVS tool deal with this feature? And is this relevant for DC award flights and/or StarAlliance award flights?

Frequent flyer 101 Apr 28, 2011 8:27 am

I checked this on ANA tool and its available, my question is: Is it a valid z2-8 routing?

Friday 22nd July Bud - FRA 19:25 - 21:05 LH1341 C
Friday 22nd July Fra - KUL 22:45 - 18:15 LH782 C
Stop
Monday 25th July KUL - SIN 20:30 - 21:25 SQ119 C
Monday 25th July SIN - ICN 23:55 - 07:30* SQ602 C


Thurs 28th July ICN - SIN 09:00 - 14:15 SQ603 C
Thurs 28th July SIN - KUL 17:00 - 17:55 SQ116 C
stop
Mon 8th Aug KUL - FRA 21:35 - 06:10* LH783 C
Tue 9th Aug FRA - BUD 08:50 - 10:20 LH1334 C

KVS Apr 28, 2011 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by cityflyer369 (Post 16294618)
Thank you very much for this link, KVS.

You're welcome!


Originally Posted by cityflyer369 (Post 16294618)
One OT hint in return for this:
As the table correctly shows, AF's booking class system is going to change from June. What could be updated in the table is that parallel to this change KL's award booking classes will be switched to the AF system. (Actually AF and KL are going to allign all their booking classes.) Discussions about this can be found in the Flying Blue forum.

Indeed, the AF/KL sections of table are currently being updated in preparation for the booking class alignment on 01 Jun. Additional revisions have been posted today.


Originally Posted by cityflyer369 (Post 16294618)
One more question to you:
Some airlines have different availability in the same award booking class, depending on whether or not the person requesting the award flight has a higher status. How does the KVS tool deal with this feature? And is this relevant for DC award flights and/or StarAlliance award flights?

In addition to the Standard Star Alliance Award Availability (on all *A member carriers), KVS Tool also supports Expanded Award Availability for members of certain FFPs (M&M, SQ KF & UA MP for redemptions on LX/LH/OS/LO/SN/JP/OU, SQ, and UA respectively).

However, only Standard Award Availability is relevant for Star Alliance Award Redemptions (incl. BD DC redemptions on *A carriers).

derbyphil Apr 29, 2011 4:57 am

Having spent much of the last 3 years working away (and therefore racking up Diamond Miles) I want to take the wife and kids to New York in the next year.

Can anyone advise on the likelihood of availability (2 adults, 2 kids) for BHX to EWR next Feb half term? Feb 11th - 16th 2012. The direct Continental flight looks the best option.

Or what is the best alternative route (or dates in school holidays).

Much appreciated!

Oxon Flyer Apr 29, 2011 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by derbyphil (Post 16299842)
I want to take the wife and kids to New York in the next year.

Welcome to FT and the bmi forum derbyphil. :)^

Finding four redemption seats at either end of a school holiday is always a challenge : to what extent are you willing to take a roundabout route with one or more changes ? Also, are you looking for first, business or economy ?

G_G Apr 30, 2011 4:29 am


Originally Posted by derbyphil (Post 16299842)
Having spent much of the last 3 years working away (and therefore racking up Diamond Miles) I want to take the wife and kids to New York in the next year.

Can anyone advise on the likelihood of availability (2 adults, 2 kids) for BHX to EWR next Feb half term? Feb 11th - 16th 2012. The direct Continental flight looks the best option.

Or what is the best alternative route (or dates in school holidays).

Much appreciated!

No seat on the direct flight but 4 seats in Eco/Biz/First if you transit by FRA

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

BHX  Birmingham Intl UK [EGBB]
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SAT  11 Feb 2012 | 4 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        959    BHX  06:55    FRA  09:35    E90  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
LH        953    BHX  09:45    FRA  12:20    735  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
LH        955    BHX  14:00    FRA  16:40    E90  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
LH        957    BHX  18:25    FRA  21:00    733  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
SN        2050    BHX  06:30    BRU  08:45    AR8  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    1009    BRU  11:20    FRA  12:20    733  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
SN        2040    BHX  11:40    BRU  13:50    AR1  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    1015    BRU  16:45    FRA  17:40    320  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
LH        3443    BHX  07:50    DUS  10:10    100  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    79      DUS  12:10    FRA  13:00    733  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
LH        3443    BHX  07:50    DUS  10:10    100  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    81      DUS  14:30    FRA  15:20    735  0  FS/  CS+  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
SAT  11 Feb 2012 | 4 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
SQ        26      FRA  08:20    JFK  10:45    744  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
CO        51      FRA  11:05    EWR  14:00    777  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        400    FRA  11:20    JFK  14:05    333  0  FS-  CS-  YS+
LH        402    FRA  13:00    EWR  16:05    346  0  FS-  CS+  YS+
LH        404    FRA  16:50    JFK  19:35    744  0  FS-  CS+  YS+
LH        484    FRA  17:30    EWR  20:20    343  0  FS+  CS+  YS+
LH        422    FRA  12:05    BOS  14:30    346  0  FS-  CS-  YS+
 -> US    2135    BOS  16:00    LGA  17:14    E90  0  FS+  CS-  YS-
LH        902    FRA  08:25    LHR  09:05    321  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> CO    111    LHR  11:15    EWR  14:45    752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        904    FRA  10:10    LHR  10:50    321  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> CO    113    LHR  12:35    EWR  16:05    752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        910    FRA  15:15    LHR  15:55    321  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> CO    115    LHR  18:00    EWR  21:30    752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        922    FRA  21:20    LHR  22:00    321  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> CO    19      LHR  08:40 +1  EWR  12:05 +1  752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        1004    FRA  07:10    BRU  08:05    319  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> UA    961    BRU  09:50    EWR  12:15    777  0  FS-  CS-  YS+
LH        948    FRA  21:35    MAN  22:15    320  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> CO    21      MAN  09:00 +1  EWR  12:00 +1  752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-


G_G Apr 30, 2011 4:34 am


Originally Posted by derbyphil (Post 16299842)
Having spent much of the last 3 years working away (and therefore racking up Diamond Miles) I want to take the wife and kids to New York in the next year.

Can anyone advise on the likelihood of availability (2 adults, 2 kids) for BHX to EWR next Feb half term? Feb 11th - 16th 2012. The direct Continental flight looks the best option.

Or what is the best alternative route (or dates in school holidays).

Much appreciated!

Same for the return flights on Februrary, 16th (but only Eco/Biz)

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
THU  16 Feb 2012 | 4 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        401    JFK  16:05    FRA  05:45 +1  333  0  FS-  CS+  YS+
LH        403    EWR  18:05    FRA  07:45 +1  346  0  FS-  CS-  YS+
CO        50      EWR  19:25    FRA  09:15 +1  777  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
SQ        25      JFK  21:00    FRA  10:50 +1  744  0  FS-  CS-  YS-
LH        405    JFK  21:35    FRA  11:10 +1  744  0  FS-  CS+  YS+
LH        485    EWR  22:10    FRA  11:55 +1  343  0  FS-  CS+  YS+
US        2130    LGA  14:00    BOS  15:06    E90  0  FS+  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    423    BOS  16:15    FRA  05:20 +1  346  0  FS-  CS-  YS+
CO        18      EWR  09:00    LHR  21:20    752  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> LH    921    LHR  06:20 +1  FRA  08:55 +1  321  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
CO        28      EWR  19:15    LHR  07:25 +1  777  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    901    LHR  08:55 +1  FRA  11:30 +1  320  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
CO        114    EWR  22:05    LHR  10:15 +1  752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    905    LHR  11:45 +1  FRA  14:15 +1  321  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
UA        960    EWR  18:40    BRU  07:50 +1  777  0  FS-  CS-  YS+
 -> LH    1005    BRU  08:50 +1  FRA  09:50 +1  319  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
CO        20      EWR  19:35    MAN  07:30 +1  752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    941    MAN  09:10 +1  FRA  11:55 +1  733  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
CO        26      EWR  19:00    BHX  06:55 +1  752  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    953    BHX  09:45 +1  FRA  12:20 +1  735  0  FS/  CS-  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
BHX  Birmingham Intl UK [EGBB]
FRI  17 Feb 2012 | 4 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH        952    FRA  08:30    BHX  09:05    735  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
LH        954    FRA  12:50    BHX  13:25    E90  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
LH        956    FRA  17:10    BHX  17:45    733  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
LH        958    FRA  22:20    BHX  22:55    E90  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
LH        1004    FRA  07:10    BRU  08:05    319  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> SN    2037    BRU  09:05    BHX  09:15    AR8  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        1006    FRA  07:55    BRU  08:50    320  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> SN    2039    BRU  11:00    BHX  11:10    AR1  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        1012    FRA  12:50    BRU  13:45    319  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> SN    2045    BRU  15:50    BHX  16:00    AR8  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        1018    FRA  17:40    BRU  18:35    735  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> SN    2047    BRU  19:35    BHX  19:45    EQV  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        74      FRA  09:00    DUS  09:50    320  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    3446    DUS  14:25    BHX  14:50    100  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        76      FRA  10:45    DUS  11:35    733  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    3446    DUS  14:25    BHX  14:50    100  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        82      FRA  16:35    DUS  17:25    733  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
 -> LH    3448    DUS  18:25    BHX  18:50    100  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        86      FRA  19:40    DUS  20:30    733  0  FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    3442    DUS  06:45 +1  BHX  07:10 +1  100  0  FS/  CS+  YS+


derbyphil Apr 30, 2011 4:01 pm

Thanks! Going via FRA was an option I was looking into so I may go for that.

Much appreciated!

Shimon May 1, 2011 4:41 am

ANA tool only shows the first 20 flights of the day. Could anyone check flights yyz to ewr/lga after 19:15 in C on July 3?

Thanks!


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